We are seeing the results of Obama’s failed attempt with a supposed “stimulus”.

Obama lied and said it would hold unemployment to 8%.  It would create over 3.5 million desperately needed jobs.

Instead what we have is $787 billion more owed to China, real unemployment at 17% and inching upward, and a loss of 2.7 million more jobs since the bill passed.  So that is a deficit of 6.2 million jobs from what the administration promised.

We were told there were “shovel ready” jobs just waiting for the funding.  Obama got the funding, but all we got was the shaft.

In his defense, Obama has added 1,800 jobs in South Dakota.

Where are the promised jobs Obama?????

planks - 22 October 2009 04:24 PM

The stimulus was intitiated and voted in by a previous administration which by the way were the same people who soiled our nest and walked off leaving the flaming wreckage of this nation.

Be patient 2012, it is going to take some time. Eight years of Rhino pyro damage will take a while to put out, assess & correct correctly.

But continue to stand up and yell fire in our theater if you wish. The rest of us are too busy carrying water to notice you stamping your feet and holding your breath.

You are mistaken my friend.

The banks received their bailout last year.  The stimulus was this past February.

Remember, it was going to hold unemployment to 8%?

I am using the numbers that Obama provided.

The below article is from Obama’s own economic advisor>

Romer: Impact of stimulus will level off
By JIM KUHNHENN (AP) – 1 day ago

WASHINGTON — A top White House economist says spending from the $787 billion economic stimulus has already had its biggest impact on economic growth and will likely not contribute to significant expansion next year.

Christina Romer, the chair of President Barack Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, said Thursday that the $194 billion already spent gave a jolt to the economy that contributed to growth in the second and third quarters of the year. She told a congressional panel that by the middle of next year, the impact of the stimulus will level off. Romer said spending so far has saved or created 600,000 to 1.5 million jobs but warned that unemployment will remain high, above 9.5 percent, through the end of 2010.

Not only did the stimulus fail to deliver as promised, only one state has added jobs.  That was a $787 Billion dollar lesson.

I am glad you acknowledge they were RINO’s and not real Republicans in the last administration.

Visit the Virginia State Stimulus website, 2012—-I think you might be quite surprised at the number of jobs and projects created by a Govenor who understands how best to utilize Federal Stimulus Money—-Sign up on the site and VA will keep you up to date on how the money is creating jobs and bringing new business and opportunity into the State. How the money is being wisely used ultimately decides success or failure, not Obama—

I noticed that you conviently failed to respond to both myself and Planks on this subject, 2012—-But then it dawned on me that a Paid GOP beyotch gets week-ends off because of slow news so we might be lucky enough to be graced by your response by Monday—-
I was actually surprised to read your use of the GOP word-Of-The-Day RINO—After all the hours you spent here on this forum in 2008(MOM), and the many hours you spent on your blog defending that Administration—I have read Planks Post several times and am really looking forward to ‘YOUR’ answers(Please, Not a Bunch of Useless BIAS Links) ‘YOUR’ answers to his Questions—As to your OUT-RIGHT-LIE about ONLY ONE State Adding Jobs, I have Archived and Printed PROOF from VA Agency Friends from ALL areas of our State from NOVA,Southside, SWVA, Central, Hampton Roads,Eastern, etc. of many,many jobs created by the correct use of The Stimulus Funds—Pictures of Private Industry Signs that will also show YOU ARE A LIAR in your above Post—YOU and YOUR Quoted, Altered Post
By the way, who exactly came up with the term “RINO”? Sounds like a Horney Elephant—Which I guess would cover a huge Percentage of the Self-Rightous, Family-‘Moral-Value’,Christian GOP—

Looking forward,2012, along with several of my VA State Employee Friends to “YOUR” answers to Planks Questions Monday—“YOUR” answers, Please—- We know how to research subjects ourselves—If you have time, answer my questions also, and give the Guys a Shout-Out.  Location And Design Engineers Of The Commonwealth—VDOT

TEST///TEST

Virginia has higher unemployment now after 9 months of stimulus spending.

By August, 2009, statewide unemployment had risen to 6.5%.  That is not bad until you look at those numbers with the Washington, DC suburbs removed from the equation.

The Washington, DC suburbs had 4.7% unemployment which makes the overall state look lower.  Nationwide & statewide, unemployment has risen since this state report was published.

What do you want to bet that officials want to wait until after the election before publishing the most recent stats, so voters don’t realize that the stimulus has failed to produce jobs.

http://www.vawc.virginia.gov/lmi/area/area_compare.asp?session=comarea&comparegeo=5101000000&geo=5121V47900&cat;=&session=COMAREA&areaname=Virginia+Statewide&blnFirstGeog=False

http://bi.cao.virginia.gov/VEC_EIS/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=lmitools_labforce&tabsLaborForce=tpnlCurrentRates&rdNoShowWait=True&rdWaitCaption=Loading...

Is your argument with me, because unemployment continues to rise despite the stimulus?

I see nothing to indicate my contention that the stimulus failed to create jobs is wrong.

So your argument is that the stimulus did not stop unemployment immediately?  Would you care to speculate as to what th rate would be without the stimulus?

Please inform the readers of this forum as to the date unemployment began to rise in this Nation—[Month and Year Please]—If you would like I can provide a Letter from VDOT Commissioner dated Nov. 2007 warning of possible Departmental lay-offs Due to Federal Projections on continuing losses in employment nationwide—

By the way, I have always been taught the sky is Blue, but Truth is much like faith—‘Truth is only what each perceives to be Truth’

You, My Friend, see What You Want To See—

BarefootFreddie - 26 October 2009 04:48 PM

So your argument is that the stimulus did not stop unemployment immediately?  Would you care to speculate as to what th rate would be without the stimulus?

Please inform the readers of this forum as to the date unemployment began to rise in this Nation—[Month and Year Please]—If you would like I can provide a Letter from VDOT Commissioner dated Nov. 2007 warning of possible Departmental lay-offs Due to Federal Projections on continuing losses in employment nationwide—

By the way, I have always been taught the sky is Blue, but Truth is much like faith—‘Truth is only what each perceives to be Truth’

You, My Friend, see What You Want To See—

Didn’t Bush end with unemployment around 6-7%.

Obama wanted the stimulus so that unemployment would not go beyond 8%.

He got the stimulus.

That was more than 3% ago (and still climbing).

Obama’s 8% is now homing in on 10% with no sign of stopping there.  Real unemployment is around 17%.

Obama’s failed policies & priorities are hurting many Americans.

What was the rate when Bush took over?  I know, ALL this un-employment only began when Obama took office—You and I both know it was beginning to spiral and gaining speed in Bush’s final year!

2012—Politics Aside—-What happened to our friend Planks?? He left a long post for you over the week-end and even PM’d me about it—

Now his posts are gone and he is not even listed as a member and has no info listed—(You didn’t have the Guys In Black make him disappear, did you—LOL)

BarefootFreddie - 26 October 2009 07:26 PM

What was the rate when Bush took over?  I know, ALL this un-employment only began when Obama took office—You and I both know it was beginning to spiral and gaining speed in Bush’s final year!

2012—Politics Aside—-What happened to our friend Planks?? He left a long post for you over the week-end and even PM’d me about it—

Now his posts are gone and he is not even listed as a member and has no info listed—(You didn’t have the Guys In Black make him disappear, did you—LOL)

I wasn’t around all weekend.  I had to work on a ‘honey-do’ list (still not done).

I didn’t see his post.  Last night was frist I got to sit at the computer.

You didn’t notice any low-flying black helicopters did you?

I have no idea.

Maybe the Dem camp looked at the polls & decided to use him in NJ.

I think I saw one of those black copters hovering over the house this evening—If I disappear, keep an eye out for a strange looking dude in any new Gitmo photos you see—

Well,back to politics, 2012—

With only 8 days to go and the latest poll showing Corzine with a 9 point lead in NJ, I don’t think planks will be needed there—You may want to increase your posts there,2012

BarefootFreddie - 26 October 2009 10:28 PM

I think I saw one of those black copters hovering over the house this evening—If I disappear, keep an eye out for a strange looking dude in any new Gitmo photos you see—

Well,back to politics, 2012—

With only 8 days to go and the latest poll showing Corzine with a 9 point lead in NJ, I don’t think planks will be needed there—You may want to increase your posts there,2012

What poll did you see a 9 pt. lead.

Was the poll administered to anyone other than Corzines family?  lol

When the stimulus was passed, a decision was made to make it succeed or pay a political price.

We have all heard of the newly invented phrase of “saved jobs”.  Intangible, and a ruse.

Now the AP has been doing some fact checking on the saved & created jobs claim.

WASHINGTON (AP) - An early progress report on President Barack Obama’s economic recovery plan overstates by thousands the number of jobs created or saved through the stimulus program, a mistake that White House officials promise will be corrected in future reports.

The government’s first accounting of jobs tied to the $787 billion stimulus program claimed more than 30,000 positions paid for with recovery money. But that figure is overstated by least 5,000 jobs, according to an Associated Press review of a sample of stimulus contracts.

The AP review found some counts were more than 10 times as high as the actual number of jobs; some jobs credited to the stimulus program were counted two and sometimes more than four times; and other jobs were credited to stimulus spending when none was produced.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091029/D9BKMVMG0.html

And this whole Stimulus thing, from the very beginning, was coceived, enacted and began with Obama—-Is this the BS you’re trying to convince yourself and others?? NO Stimulus Plan for the Economy was begun or passed off on the American People unaccountable for until Obama took Office and it was ALL conceived by the brilliant mind of Obama??

How many hours per night do you lie awake Praying for the American Economy to worsen so you can keep your greedy little GOP sell-out of this Nation in order to do what it takes to earn your nickel;Tobash this Administration and Democrats at ANY cost??

Do you feel a warm little- tingle in your heart each time you hear of another 1000 Americans losing their jobs or homes?

And we ALL know it ALL began with Obama—-Because everything had been so PERFECT for the 8 years before, Right?

BarefootFreddie - 29 October 2009 03:55 PM

And this whole Stimulus thing, from the very beginning, was coceived, enacted and began with Obama—-Is this the BS you’re trying to convince yourself and others?? NO Stimulus Plan for the Economy was begun or passed off on the American People unaccountable for until Obama took Office and it was ALL conceived by the brilliant mind of Obama??

How many hours per night do you lie awake Praying for the American Economy to worsen so you can keep your greedy little GOP sell-out of this Nation in order to do what it takes to earn your nickel;Tobash this Administration and Democrats at ANY cost??

Do you feel a warm little- tingle in your heart each time you hear of another 1000 Americans losing their jobs or homes?

And we ALL know it ALL began with Obama—-Because everything had been so PERFECT for the 8 years before, Right?

It did not begin with Obama.

Bush had an inexcusable deficit. $487 Billion.  Obama campaigned against that deficit.  He promised to “change” it. 

He did change it.  It just ended at $1.4 trillion

Bush began the process of erroneously bailing out the banks in a fool hearty move.

Obama followed up with an encore by forcing a $787 billion dollar stimulus that has stimulated nothing.

Then he took over the bulk of our auto industry.  Kicked some money back to the unions, put a union boss in charge of GM…..................now GM wants even more money.

I share the pain families continue to feel when they lose their jobs.

When Obama arrived unemployment was 6-7%.  Now 9.8% and rising.

You simply parrot the Obama talking points of accepting no responsibility for anything.

I have never read anything by you critical of the messianic Obama.

2012 - 29 October 2009 10:44 AM

When the stimulus was passed, a decision was made to make it succeed or pay a political price.

We have all heard of the newly invented phrase of “saved jobs”.  Intangible, and a ruse.

Now the AP has been doing some fact checking on the saved & created jobs claim.

WASHINGTON (AP) - An early progress report on President Barack Obama’s economic recovery plan overstates by thousands the number of jobs created or saved through the stimulus program, a mistake that White House officials promise will be corrected in future reports.

The government’s first accounting of jobs tied to the $787 billion stimulus program claimed more than 30,000 positions paid for with recovery money. But that figure is overstated by least 5,000 jobs, according to an Associated Press review of a sample of stimulus contracts.

The AP review found some counts were more than 10 times as high as the actual number of jobs; some jobs credited to the stimulus program were counted two and sometimes more than four times; and other jobs were credited to stimulus spending when none was produced.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091029/D9BKMVMG0.html

2012—-Do you intend to correct this information by quoting AP as admitting “not enough projects were reviewed to ge a truly accurate count”??—- Do you intend to inform the forum that even FOX is admitting the figures were misleading?? Do you intend to link the forum to http://www.Recovery.gov for a true account and release to be posted and made available to any news source, including AP and to the public this Friday???

Or will you stick with your spin and usual troll links that tell only your side, half-truths and hidden GOP Agenda?? Do you seriously fear answering questions and telling the REAL WHOLE truth?? Does it make you fear that readers here on the Forum will see you for what YOU really Are??

Give these people the Answers and the Whole truth—