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Senate Majority Leader now tells us that health care reform will cost…...........$ 2 trillion
 
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Posted: 15 October 2009 04:30 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Seems like just Monday that the liberals were warning us that it was going to cost $829 Billion to fund health care reform.

When the CBO report circulates stating they can get $54 Billion savings annually through Tort Reform, the health care cost suddenly doubles to $2 Trillion.

Folks, there is inflation, then there is inflation.

The liberals have no idea what the costs are going to be.

We know that medicare is around 7x the original estimate.

If health care ends up costing 7x Reids own projection of $2 Trillion is that hyper-inflation?

Can we then afford to let our seniors in medicare keep their $500 Billion?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/10/15/harry_reid_admits_health_care_bill_will_cost_2_trillion.html

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Posted: 15 October 2009 05:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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You say “We know that medicare is around 7x the original estimate”
What time frame does the 7X cover??
How much has health insurance cost gone up during that same time frame??

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Posted: 16 October 2009 01:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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fromtheslide - 15 October 2009 05:45 PM

You say “We know that medicare is around 7x the original estimate”
What time frame does the 7X cover??
How much has health insurance cost gone up during that same time frame??

Insurance has gone up much faster than it would if we could purchase it across state lines, and create greater competetion.

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Posted: 16 October 2009 05:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Is there a REAL reason that you refuse to answer questions????

I think that research shows that insurance rates have gone up 21X during that same period.

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Posted: 16 October 2009 08:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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fromtheslide - 16 October 2009 05:48 PM

Is there a REAL reason that you refuse to answer questions????

I think that research shows that insurance rates have gone up 21X during that same period.

Could be 21x.  I wasn’t interested enough to look it up.  That’s why I didn’t look it up.

Where did you find the info?

I know what it means if you take $500 billion out of medicare without cutting the number of people using medicare.  You have the same amount of people fighting over a smaller pool of money.

They will not get the same level of care.  The money won’t be there.

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Posted: 16 October 2009 11:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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2012—You weren’t interested enough to look it up??  Don’t you mean you couldn’t get an answer from your controlers and the true answer would not support your biased opinion??

Take $500 billion out of Medicare without cutting the number of people using Medicare?  So the Right comes up with its figures by declaring No-One will ever Die on Medicare and No-One will ever Die before using a dime of Medicare after paying into it all their lives? Now the Right has learned to control Death to uphold it’s made-up estimates! 

Take a stroll thru your neighborhood and see how many on Medicare will turn in their card to you for the opportunity to pay $1200 per month in order to line the pockets of your beloved Insurance CEOs.

Or are you not interested enough to look that up?? 
As for level of care you receive, your Insurance ‘Death Panels’ decide that on the amount YOU can afford to Pay Already—

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Posted: 17 October 2009 02:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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BarefootFreddie - 16 October 2009 11:38 PM

2012—You weren’t interested enough to look it up??  Don’t you mean you couldn’t get an answer from your controlers and the true answer would not support your biased opinion??

Take $500 billion out of Medicare without cutting the number of people using Medicare?  So the Right comes up with its figures by declaring No-One will ever Die on Medicare and No-One will ever Die before using a dime of Medicare after paying into it all their lives? Now the Right has learned to control Death to uphold it’s made-up estimates! 

Take a stroll thru your neighborhood and see how many on Medicare will turn in their card to you for the opportunity to pay $1200 per month in order to line the pockets of your beloved Insurance CEOs.

Or are you not interested enough to look that up?? 
As for level of care you receive, your Insurance ‘Death Panels’ decide that on the amount YOU can afford to Pay Already—

Sticking with your “controllers” schtick?  What are you talking about with the $500 billion?  Those aren’t my figures, their the analysts numbers.  $300-500 billion.  Who said the stuff you cited?

Why is Harry Reid saying it will cost $2 Trillion on Thursday when they said $829 Billion on Monday?  That’s a harsh rate of inflation! 

Who said anything about “turn in their medicare card”?  $1200 per month, CEO’s?

That’s quite a leap from what I wrote.

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Posted: 17 October 2009 03:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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You wrote the $500 Billion out of Medicare in the post above—I stick with the ‘controllers’ becaue we both know this is TRUE—My friends and I follow you on other post and your Right-Wing Paid for Blog—-All your ideas and refusals to answer anyones simple questions are found in the Daily-Posted Right-Wing Coaching Manuals and On-Line Instructions to low wage peons—You have no-one on this forum fooled and are the 1st to Post whenever posible to try and discredit ideas or opinions of local posters—

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Posted: 17 October 2009 03:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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BarefootFreddie - 17 October 2009 03:46 AM

You wrote the $500 Billion out of Medicare in the post above—I stick with the ‘controllers’ becaue we both know this is TRUE—My friends and I follow you on other forums and your Right-Wing Paid for Blog—-All your ideas and refusals to answer anyones simple questions are found in the Daily-Posted Right-Wing Coaching Manuals and On-Line Instructions to low wage peons—You have no-one on this forum fooled and are the 1st to Post whenever posible to try and discredit ideas or opinions of local posters—

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Posted: 17 October 2009 11:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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BarefootFreddie - 17 October 2009 03:46 AM

You wrote the $500 Billion out of Medicare in the post above—I stick with the ‘controllers’ becaue we both know this is TRUE—My friends and I follow you on other post and your Right-Wing Paid for Blog—-All your ideas and refusals to answer anyones simple questions are found in the Daily-Posted Right-Wing Coaching Manuals and On-Line Instructions to low wage peons—You have no-one on this forum fooled and are the 1st to Post whenever posible to try and discredit ideas or opinions of local posters—

Paid?  You are delusional.

Manual for a paid blog, again, delusional, and a lie.  The blog spot is free for anyone to sign up for & use.  No one is going to pay me or you for posting on it.

You do not know what I do for a living, but it is unrelated to politics.

Discredit ideas?  Offer differing opinion of what I see if I disagree.

It appears with your charges that you are working from Saul Alisky’s “manual” that the left seems to embrace.

This original post shows a video of the Senate Majority Leader saying it will now cost $2 Trillion.  You ignore that and get upset that I would point that out.

Do you think I am standing off-camera telling him what to say?

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