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Just what are the Democrats hiding?
 
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Posted: 06 October 2009 01:16 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Pelosi and Reid are fighting against a law that would require Congress to post bills online for 72 hours before taking a vote on a measure. 

During the campaign last year, Obama promised to make each bill available online for five days before a vote.  He was not even in office a month before he began breaking that promise with regularity.

The 1,000 page stimulus bill was rammed through Congress without anyone reading it, including those who voted on it.  Same with Cap & Trade.

Obama pushed on the stimulus passage because it was an “emergency”.  After it passed, he went to Chicago for four days without signing this “emergency” bill.

Do the members draw a salary to do a job? 

Are voters being unreasonable to expect our elected representatives to read the bills before they vote on them?

Lawmakers were given just hours to examine the $789 billion stimulus plan, sweeping climate-change legislation and a $700 billion bailout package before final votes.

The Senate is expected to vote on a health bill in the weeks to come, representing months of work and stretching to hundreds of pages. And as of now, there is no assurance that members of the public, or even the senators themselves, will be given the chance to read the legislation before a vote.

“The American people are now suspicious of not only the lawmakers, but the process they hide behind to do their work,“ said Michael Franc, president of government relations for the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

“If someone had a chance to look at the bill, they would have found that out,“ said Lisa Rosenberg, who lobbies Congress on behalf of the Sunlight Foundation to bring more transparency to government.

The foundation has begun an effort to get Congress to post bills online, for all to see, 72 hours before lawmakers vote on them.

“It would give the public a chance to really digest and understand what is in the bill,“ Rosenberg said, “and communicate whether that is a good or a bad thing while there is still time to fix it.“

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Congressional-leaders-fight-against-posting-bills-online-8340658-63557217.html

What reasonable objection can be made against posting bills online?  What are the opposing Democrats trying to hide?

These same people belittled the citizens who took a stand & spoke out against this agenda, as unAmerican, racists & Nazis’.

When voters see the Congress behaving in this heavy-handed manner, it is no surprise that voters grow angry and call for their ouster.

If they are not hiding anything, it should be posted.

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Posted: 06 October 2009 02:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Let me go ahead and provide the obvious forthcoming response…Bush rammed things through too.

If this was such a fine healthcare plan, the Dems would hold it until next summer’s campaign.  People just want the Dems to provide them shelter, medical care, daycare, food, a job and don’t forget a nice discount on a new car.  Maybe the Dems are the anti-christ, ya think.

I am particularly glad the White House had some extra lab coats around yesterday for the propaganda photo-op with doctors.  What a nice touch.  After all, it is critical this bill get passed as soon as possible so it can sit on a shelf until effective in 2013.

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Posted: 06 October 2009 03:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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The white men have spoken!

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Posted: 06 October 2009 03:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Do you have something against white men?

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Posted: 06 October 2009 04:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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planks, stick your head back in the sand while we lament our elected representatives not reading a bill or allowing us the opportunity as well.  Our secular Lord promised bills would be posted.  Surely, he hasn’t broken a campaign promise.  Oh but you probably don’t care what promises Obama breaks for he is holy and been found worthy by the organized.

Viva l’Obama!!!  idiot.

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Posted: 06 October 2009 04:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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planks - 06 October 2009 03:38 PM

I’ve warned you guys, stop eating the mushrooms you find in the cow pattys. It makes normal stuff very scary and disorienting. And that frothing at the mouth over da libruls is very unappealing to the girls. Down right yukkie.
If you believe anyone wants to turn everyone gay, then I can give it a rest here. You guys along with the rodeo clown will scare over the last remnant of the (f)right wing. Your mommas must be very proud.

You would not like your representative to read it before voting?

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Posted: 06 October 2009 07:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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planks - 06 October 2009 04:58 PM

Ouch. School me here does the Prez write bills? I thought he signed or vetoed. But what do I know?

I’m sure you have a representative or senator or two. Perhaps they can provide your personal hand delivered copy should something actually clear the commitees & be prepared for vote. Always a rare event.

Why is a written copy of anything even necessary for a closed mind? Just write down what YOU want to happen and damn the wishes of the citizen majority. Mr. Cheney can even give you some excellent pointers.

And one more thing, my lunch today was not very good. Like you, I believe that damn Obama ruins my life every minute. HE owes me a make up lunch!

I propose we re-vote in three years and take a recount. Until then you keep screeching at us and surely we (voters) will come to our senses.

Are you back to refusing to answer softball questions?

Why would Obama propose it during the campaign, and as leader of the party, not insist on it.

I don’t need a hand delivered copy.

An e-copy online will suffice.

Sorry too hear about your lunch.  Unfortunately no one owes anyone anything…......including a free lunch.

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Posted: 06 October 2009 10:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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planks - 06 October 2009 08:05 PM

Couldn’t help but notice the small stain on your pointy white hat. A little bleach will take that right out.

Oh look, planks is dumb founded by a simple little question about reading a bill.  The simple questions are the toughest, I know.  No 72 hours to read a bill that waits 3 years to go into effect.  That’s a sobering little pesky fact.  “I’ll take pinhead race card for $100, Alex.“

Hey planks, let’s go sit in a church of white liberation theology and see if we can get elected President.  What d’ya say?

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Posted: 07 October 2009 09:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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ccone1 STILL WRONG, a doctors group provided lab coats to doctors that arrived without
coats.

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Posted: 07 October 2009 12:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Most times, when doctors visit the White House, they don’t wear lab coats.  It made for a nice photo.  Period.

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Posted: 07 October 2009 03:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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As I understand it,  the doctors decided to wear the coats.

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Posted: 09 October 2009 10:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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ccone1 - 07 October 2009 12:02 PM

Most times, when doctors visit the White House, they don’t wear lab coats.  It made for a nice photo.  Period.

The White House handed out lab coats to those who did not bring them.

This group were members of the “Doctors for Obama” during last years campaign.

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Posted: 09 October 2009 02:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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2012 WRONG AGAIN, coats were handed by the doctors group to the few who
did not bring a coat.

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Posted: 09 October 2009 07:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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fromtheslide - 09 October 2009 02:23 PM

2012 WRONG AGAIN, coats were handed by the doctors group to the few who
did not bring a coat.

Whats the differance?? I wonder if ACORN, and SEIU where on hand to provide security?

Boy, this is amusing!!

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Posted: 10 October 2009 10:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Planks,
Why would Americans about to be hit with a trillion dollar entitlement program not want their representatives or themselves to read the bill?

Obama promised to post bills online for 5 days for voters to provide him feedback before he decided to sign a bill.

So why do you oppose this?

Simple question.  Can you provide a reasoned response?

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Posted: 10 October 2009 01:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Yeah—-Acorn is the biggest evil in the universe.  If only they hadn’t been created, what a blissful world we would be living in.  If we just get rid of that organization, all the good things in the world come prosper.  No more unethical behavior from politicians, no more discourse at all in the world.

As for what they would be hiding?  Maybe the same thing that is always hidden, no matter which party is in power.  They should post the bills and take time to read before vote.  They should have ALWAYS done that but maybe this will make a difference and they will actually start reading them and maybe they will post them.  The terminology is usually written in such a complicated confusing manner, I don’t know how much difference it would make though.

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