No women in the workplace.  If you’re raped, enjoy keeping and having that baby.  The family is breaking down because of modernity.  Believe this crap?  Go ahead and vote for the REAL Bob McDonnell.  Not the pseudo-moderate his TV ads have attempted to create.

He did have some beliefs many years ago.  Thankfully people change and their positions evolve.
Did Democrats apply this standard to Ted Kennedy?  Measure him by an incident long ago that could be insight to his character as a man?  Or did they believe he had changed?

Did the Democrats hold Senator Robert Byrd, D-WV, to the same standard or did they believe he has changed?

People do change over time.  Voters know this.  That is why McDonnell is opening up his lead in the polls.

Of course people can change their outlook on issues.  Just look at Obama, he was raised a communist sympathizer but you can’t tell from his policies.  He just appears to be a hum-drum, run-of-the-mill community organizer; good lookin’; well spoken; intelligent community organizer.  Nope, nothing even slightly leftist about BO.  And some of us thought that Wright, Davis, Ayers, Occidental College might shape his perception.  He doesn’t want to run a car company, he wants the organized union to run it.  What a relief.

So McDonnell has probably changed too.  I think you should give him the benefit of the doubt and vote for him.  After all, look at Obama’s metamorphesis into a centrist.  ; )  McDonnell may be next.

And people can say what they will about FactsNews but Chris Wallace is as level headed as any other at the anchor desk. 

But when considering the role of govt, you might consider accepting positions from Bobby Mac on issues he cannot change if it means less govt encroachment and a respect for the tenth amendment.  Not referring to Bobby, but governors make great presidents. 

Yes, I’m a tenther.  I believe that our founders wrote all down that they wanted written down.  All else falls to the States (or the People); the document is quite clear.  Sorry for the aside.

I’ve never said the founders were perfect but they created a document that can breath within its own constraints.  Those orginal ills were corrected with the 13th, 14th, 15th amendments.  There is a process to follow.

The 10th amendment allowed for national prohibition of alcohol.  Why?  Because the Constitution doesn’t give that power to Congress, the States had to do it through ratification.  Another power not provided Congress is that of mandating liability insurance for your car.  Do a word search for ‘healthcare’ in the doc but I suspect you already know what you’ll find.

Neither party hardly gives a flip about the Constitution (and I’m beginning to believe that of a lot of Americans) but at least one party isn’t as brazen with their non-compliance.  I was simply suggesting that any voter should pick their battles of importance and things mentioned about Bobby can’t impact his governance of VA.  His hands are tied on those issues.

I’ve checked back to see if you’re still on-line as I enjoy a civil discourse and re-read a little.  Sock-puppet?  Do you really think Cheney was pulling the strings?  I don’t know…I may not have agreed with everything Bush did but certainly think he was the lead dog.  Ever heard the term ‘Obamaprompter?‘  We literally have a political infant as our Chief Executive.  I’m not being partisan…I promise.  But the Dems have party control problems.  Talk about the GOP abandoning conservatives; the Dems have equally abondoned their roots.  Face it, BO is no FDR (except for a lot of wasteful spending) and dang sure is no Kennedy.  I see a resemblance to Carter though.  Oh boy.  Maybe he’s Carter’s policies and Kennedy’s charisma (and FDRs spending, some of which was quite beneficial).  Talk about a sock-puppet.  You’ve read plenty of my posts…I’m being nice to the fella.

ccone1 - 01 October 2009 09:38 PM

I’ve checked back to see if you’re still on-line as I enjoy a civil discourse and re-read a little.  Sock-puppet?  Do you really think Cheney was pulling the strings?  I don’t know…I may not have agreed with everything Bush did but certainly think he was the lead dog.  Ever heard the term ‘Obamaprompter?‘  We literally have a political infant as our Chief Executive.  I’m not being partisan…I promise.  But the Dems have party control problems.  Talk about the GOP abandoning conservatives; the Dems have equally abondoned their roots.  Face it, BO is no FDR (except for a lot of wasteful spending) and dang sure is no Kennedy.  I see a resemblance to Carter though.  Oh boy.  Maybe he’s Carter’s policies and Kennedy’s charisma (and FDRs spending, some of which was quite beneficial).  Talk about a sock-puppet.  You’ve read plenty of my posts…I’m being nice to the fella.

With all due respect, I have read your posts and you sound partisan, whether you mean to or not.  Calling Foxnews Factnews is funny considering some of the stories they have done.  The Republican party does no wrong and the Democratic party does nothing right does not translate into truth.  I’ve looked at the factchecker sites, (I know some think there is a hidden lying agenda with them) but Foxnews and MSNBC have had their problems with facts or lack there of.  Bringing on the Rush wanna be-Beck lowered my opinion of the network but it has helped their numbers.  We have huge political problems in that the corporations control our country and as far as I am concerned that includes the corporation known as Foxnews.  The 24 hour alleged news networks and the blogs that are slanted have not improved the reporting as was the original intent.

As for the arguments about politicians changing, it is possible.  But the right will say the left never changes and the left will say the right never changes.  McDonnell may have changed his opinion on some things but I still think he is too far right.  But I think he will win the election.

It’s pretty easy for a conservative to be taken as a Rep because the Rep are the more right of the only two parties we have.  But not always:

Liberal policies of the New Deal failed outside of creating infrastructure and hydro-electric; good things but when the projects were over, the projects were over.  It took FDR becoming the first neo-con of the 20th century to bring us out of the depression.  Yep, save Europe, fight the Japanese, build, manufacture, industrialize, and influence the world. 

Kennedy - tax cutting neo-con.

Reagan - handed a mess from Carter’s liberal foreign and economic policies; tax cutting neo-con and it worked…led to the greatest expansion of our economy in history.

Bush (W) - handed a mess after Clinton’s liberal foreign policy leading to post-9/11 recession; tax-cutting neo-con and it worked.  Note the economy Clinton handed Bush was great…balanced budget for three years will get you that.

Obama - handed a mess of an economy which was hardly Bush’s ‘fault’ (Bush & McCain attempted to reform Fred & Fan, two key culprits) and has chosen to be another Carter when, historically conservative economic policies work regardless of party.

Reagan and W, had to deficit spend to get us back up, which is straight from the Keysenian playbook, but Obama should be another economic Clinton and foreign policy Kennedy (to name a couple Dems).

I don’t subscribe to the whole neo-con thing though.  I believe we should have the strongest military in the world but leave it well-trained and equipped on our own soil as much as possible.

planks - 01 October 2009 08:00 PM

Are you talking about the founders that allocated fractional votes for women and slaves but not for women and slaves to use themselves? I am thankful for their foresights such as they were in the culture they were born into but wisdom and ideas evolve. Never changing anything under any circumstances is keeping a lot of muslims and islamist in the stone ages. America deserves better. Bobbie Mac is a tool and a poser and God help us if another Darth Cheney with a smelly sock puppet (W) ever get elected again. We need more. Our children and grandchildren aren’t going to fall for this schtick if they pay any attention at all.

Amen, brother!  Our founders, in their wisdom. realized they were not writing a Constitution for all time, but for the times they lived in.  So they provided later generations a mechanism to effect CHANGE in the future.  This device is known as Constitutional Amendment.  With Amendments slavery was abolished and women got the vote.

ccone1 - 01 October 2009 08:06 PM

I’ve never said the founders were perfect but they created a document that can breath within its own constraints.  Those orginal ills were corrected with the 13th, 14th, 15th amendments.  There is a process to follow.

The 10th amendment allowed for national prohibition of alcohol.  Why?  Because the Constitution doesn’t give that power to Congress, the States had to do it through ratification.  Another power not provided Congress is that of mandating liability insurance for your car.  Do a word search for ‘healthcare’ in the doc but I suspect you already know what you’ll find.

Neither party hardly gives a flip about the Constitution (and I’m beginning to believe that of a lot of Americans) but at least one party isn’t as brazen with their non-compliance.  I was simply suggesting that any voter should pick their battles of importance and things mentioned about Bobby can’t impact his governance of VA.  His hands are tied on those issues.

Apropos auto insurance, the States don’t have to enforce mandatory auto insurance.  But if they want to tap into federal highway funds, they must require auto insurance.  It’s up to the States, just as the Constitution requires.  Same situation with health insurance.  Under proposed legislation, if you want to go naked and avoid carrying a medical policy, you simply pay a penalty.  Which is probably less than insurance would have cost you.  (Under $1000./year)  So it’s still your choice.

Yes, coercion from the Feds have led the States to mandate liability auto insurance, and a drinking age of 21 years.  Good examples of the Fed getting too big for its britches and the States being too reliant on fed funds.  But in neither case is it a fed law to carry liability or be 21 to buy alcohol.  Because, as you state, the powers rest with the States and they (we) chose to coware at the Fed’s feet.

A federal mandate to buy health insurance is unconstitutional as you’ve just alluded.

Amendment 18:
1. After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.

2. The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

3. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the Legislatures of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.

This is how we nationally outlawed liquor and the way to a federal mandate to buy health insurance.  But, it’s too much of a struggle to get 3/4 of the States on board so they’re going to simply legislate it and dare you to care.

Interesting that in your response to planks, you defend the amendment process.

In your response to me, you appear to accept federal extortion of the States; and the People.