Today, radical right-wing blog Red State launched “Project Leper,” an attempt to professionally punish McCain staffers whom Red State’s Erick Erickson perceives to have wronged Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK). Erikson told Glenn Beck today, “Palin was the best thing that happened to” the McCain campaign. To which, Beck agreed, saying many conservatives told him they supported McCain in hopes he would die in office:

BECK: I mean, I have to tell you if I heard once, I heard 1,000 times from people, and I never said this, never said this on the air because you just don’t say these things, but I heard a million times from people, “I’m going to vote for John McCain and, you know, I mean, he’s old. Maybe we get Sarah Palin in the first term.” You know what I mean?

ERICKSON: Exactly.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/06/beck-mccain-die/

She sure cleans up good for a moose hunter dont she

Just my view. I think if McCain would have took someone else with him becides Palin he could have won. A lot of people said that was the reason why they did not vote for McCain because of Palin. Maybe thats why Obama did not pick Hillary or she just did not want to deal with the mess. I don’t no.

No matter how it went history is made we must work together and do our own small part to get our nation up and running again

This is a complete bunch of rubbish.  You can dredge up just about anything if you want to dig deep enough into the blogs and other unreputable back alleys of the internet.

Dan East - 09 November 2008 03:03 PM

This is a complete bunch of rubbish.  You can dredge up just about anything if you want to dig deep enough into the blogs and other unreputable back alleys of the internet.

I agree that lots can be found if you dig deep.  Look at the things posted on this forum.  Some with links to manipulated videos on youtube;  or exceprts that twist the meaning of something.  But I actually heard this Glenn Beck thing.

Dan anytime someone post something that you don’t agree with you try to put it down. This time you say “This is a complete bunch of rubbish.  You can dredge up just about anything if you want to dig deep enough into the blogs and other unreputable back alleys of the internet”.  How about you go directly to Glen Beck’s web site and read for yourself.
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/17856/

Of course it’s rubbish.  “Conservatives voted for McCain hoping he’d die in office so Palin could take over.“  Really?  All conservatives have a little plan, some universal scheme, that the only reason they were voting for McCain was in hope he would die?  Pure stupidity.  Do you know that the people running these blogs make money based on the number of hits their site receives?  Did you know that when they post outlandish things of this nature, people like you latch onto it, and send them more traffic?

How about instead of this ridiculous theory on why conservatives voted for McCain I present something that actually makes sense: McCain is more conservative on all the important issues than Obama (like abortion and gay rights), so that is why conservatives preferred McCain.

Talking about dying in office, if I were a betting man I’d have to put better odds on an assassination of Obama than a natural death of McCain.  Both are low odds, but I think the former would be the more likely of the two.

“ Do you know that the people running these blogs make money based on the number of hits their site receives?“  Kind of like the rubbish WythevilleMom posted.  Yet it seems like there were some who believed and defended/argued those points. 

Do you know who Glenn Beck is? It’s posted on his website but it was also on his radio show.  He’ll be on Foxnews soon.

That’s a transcript from a live talk show - where people have to run their mouths to fill air time.  And yes, my comment about making headline-grabbing comments holds to talk shows just as well as blogs.  Obviously Beck is exaggerating greatly to say that most, or even many, conservatives voted for McCain only in hopes he would die.  I read the whole transcript, and most of the discussion centered around McCain not reaching out enough to his base - conservative republicans - so Beck and the guy he was talking with, Erickson, felt that McCain brought Palin along just to get back the conservatives that McCain had alienated.  Regardless, I don’t care who said it, to make a claim that conservatives only voted for McCain because of a chance that Palin might become president is patently ridiculous.

I would consider myself a conservative - I believe that abortion is murder, and I don’t believe that the sanctity of matrimony should be extended to support homosexuals.  I would have voted for McCain over Obama even if Donald Duck was his running mate.

Dan shame on you. I don’t think I would be taking bets on an assassintion of Mr. Obama. I’m sure he has people watching over him everyday. I know there have been people who have thought about it and planned to do it,but it is wrong. He has two small girls and a Family. Just as McCain. Why would someone want him to die. That man could live to be a 100 years old. My stepfather had a stroke 3 years ago and we thought he would not make it, but he was 93 in Oct. I would hate to think that I would want anyone to die no matter what kind of a person they were or what they did. I would love to see my stepfather get to come home someday. My real dad past away when I was 13. Today I still miss him so much. Life is a gift. I’m not throwing this at you. But there are some really sick people out there that would rather see Donald Duck as a President than having Goffy. It’s a shame that there are so many conservative republicans and that goes for the Democrat party also. We are going to have to live with what we have and pray that God will help them all get through this. Another question, On abortion, If the mother and the baby are both in danger and if they have to choose which one to live or die. Who would you pick? Yes, I disgree on abortion when it comes to these young girls who just don’t want a baby. They can have them and give them to someone who can take care of them. There are many people trying to have babys who can’t. As of the homosexuals yes it is wrong and it is in the bible. But know one should judge those people, only God can do that. People can change and I do believe that. There is hope for everyone. Some of those people have good hearts and mean well. You just can’t judge people no matter who they are are what they are. God loves everyone. Even Bad People.

Dan shame on you. I don’t think I would be taking bets on an assassintion of Mr. Obama.

I’m not taking bets.  I said “Talking about dying in office, if I were a betting man I’d have to put better odds on an assassination of Obama than a natural death of McCain.  Both are low odds, but I think the former would be the more likely of the two.“

I didn’t even say I would bet, I just said stated which I felt would be the more likely of the two.  And yes, I do believe that the chances of McCain dying of natural causes in the next four years are lower than the likelihood of an assassination.  As I’ve said before, the nutcases are going to be seeping out of the woodwork.  Whether because Obama was born and raised early on as a Muslim, or because of his race, or whatever other ridiculous reasons that cause lunatics to do the things they do.  Look at Kennedy’s assassination, or John Lennon’s murder, or the Columbine shootings, or the Tech shootings.  Not that there is any such thing, but none of these people had anything remotely like a good reason whatsoever to do what they did (as opposed to something like the attempted assassination of Hitler).  My point is that Obama will be attracting these types of lunatics, certainly more so than McCain.

Oh, another risk factor.  If Al-Qaeda would have assassinated Bush, well, obviously a lot of Americans wouldn’t have exactly been terribly upset that he was no longer our president.  However, as I mentioned in another post, if something happens to Obama there will be widespread rioting.  Look at what happened with Rodney King and the damage and murders caused by the resulting riot.  So I think that Al-Qaeda would consider it worthwhile to go after Obama directly, because of the turmoil and economic damage that would ensue.

sweets - 09 November 2008 11:58 PM

But there are some really sick people out there that would rather see Donald Duck as a President than having Goffy.

???
I’m sorry, you lost me there. Care to elaborate?

It’s a shame that there are so many conservative republicans and that goes for the Democrat party also.

As opposed to “liberal” republicans? This is just my opinion, but I think there are a whole big lot of conservative Republicans out there…the problem is that the Republican politicians are not so conservative, so they don’t connect with their base. Case in point: John McCain

Another question, On abortion, If the mother and the baby are both in danger and if they have to choose which one to live or die. Who would you pick?

Ok, let me go on record as saying that I, too, believe that abortion is murder. As to this question, before abortion was a viable procedure (like in the 1800’s and before), one or both would die. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. That’s just the way it was. I get so tired of hearing about all these “reasons for abortion” that occur maybe once in a million cases. My answer to the question then, is, let God decide. Let Him alone take what the enemy meant for evil and turn it to the good.

As of the homosexuals yes it is wrong and it is in the bible. But know one should judge those people, only God can do that.

There is a big difference between judging people and simply stating what is in black and white in the Bible. If someone kills someone else, it’s not judging that person to say that what they did was wrong. The Bible says, “Thou shalt not kill,“ or for those of us who don’t believe that reading anything but the King James version will send you straight to Hell, it says, “Don’t kill people.“ It’s not a judgement, it’s a fact.

People can change and I do believe that. There is hope for everyone. Some of those people have good hearts and mean well. You just can’t judge people no matter who they are are what they are. God loves everyone. Even Bad People.

I could not agree with you more. There is Hope for everyone. We are all sinners saved by Grace. Believe me, I’m living proof of what Paul wrote; That where sin abounds, grace much more abounds. But having a good heart does not mean that everything you do is right in the eyes of God. And you’re right, God does in fact love everyone. But He doesn’t like some things that people do. If my children disobey me or my wife, then they are disciplined. We love them the same before, during and after they do the thing that they did. But at the same time, we absolutely can not condone unacceptable behavior. If we humans can not accept and condone behavior opposite of what we teach our children, then how much less can God accept and condone behavior by His children (us) that is contradictory to what He teaches us?

(Boy, did this thread just take a drastic turn or what LOL)

Now, to address the question of the thread…I agree that, for my part, Palin was the best thing that could happen to McCain. I didn’t vote for McCain, per se. I voted for Palin. Now, did I want McCain to die in office? <b>Absolutely <u>not</u>. But, for me, Palin represented a voice in the ear of the President. At least one person who seemed grounded and held my own conservative values/beliefs, for the most part. If Beck was telling the truth and not exaggerating for shock value how many conservatives told him they hoped McCain died in office, then it is a sad, sad day for America. I know many, many conservatives who would sincerely mean it when they tell you that McCain dying in office was the farthest thing from their minds.

But, as Dan pointed out, these national TV/Radio talking heads get paid based on their ratings, so if they can get people like us talking about one show, there’s a chance that we’ll tune in to the next one. Kind of like the scene in “Private Parts” where the guy said that the people who loved Howard Stern mainly tuned in to see what he would say next. And the people that hated him tuned in…to see what he’d say next. They don’t care why we tune in, as long as we tune in. I used to fall in to that trap, back when I would listen to Limbaugh and Hannity every day. But I came to realize that Limbaugh has a tendency to drink a little kool aid himself…and Hannity strikes me as the textbook definition of “right-wing nut job.“ So I don’t listen to either of them anymore.

A . You are so smart figure the goofy thing out on your own.  B. I think the Republincan’s first base was Bush. Why do you think Obama got President?  C.  I’m saying to you if your wife was getting ready to have a baby the Dr. comes to you and says we have problems either your wife dies or the baby. So your saying that God would want both of them to die. Maybe God is giving you the choice. So that means you want both of them to die. D. Yes, I agree that is a fact. E. Yes, No one is perfect, Children should be disciplined. Thats what ‘s wrong with the kids today when they took prayer and discipline out of the schools and alot of them don’t get it at home. F.  As far as Palin goes it looks to me like she just wants to be in the spot light. Every news channel you go to she is on there one time or another. Pretty is as pretty does.