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Fraudulent Obama voting in Ohio
 
Dan East
Posted: 26 October 2008 07:58 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Ohio is a battleground state this election, and there have already been numerous cases of fraudulent voting for Obama.
New York Post:

Thirteen campaign workers for Barack Obama yesterday yanked their voter registrations and ballots in Ohio after being warned by a prosecutor that temporary residents can’t vote in the battleground state.

Pretty sad when the Obama staffers, paid for and dispatched to Ohio by Obama, are trying to break the law.  I’m just glad they got caught.

Furor over ACORN allegations gaining momentum
200,000 voter registrations in Ohio are under question, because social security numbers do not match other personal information.  The Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, has been blocking Republican attempts to simply have the information checked, which could rule the registrations as invalid if the information is incorrect.  Republicans are trying to sue the state of Ohio to have the information checked, but so far have not been successful.  Now the Department Of Justice is now involved, so hopefully we will see a fair election in Ohio that is not biased towards Obama by fellow Democratic politicians.

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Posted: 26 October 2008 02:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Dan some of your claims are not just streaching the truth but are in fact outright lies.

You state “Republicans are trying to sue the state of Ohio to have the information checked, but so far have not been successful.“
  The Dayton Daily News reports:
“The fight has already been to the U.S. Supreme Court, which threw out an order from a federal court directing Brunner to provide county boards of election with details on mismatched information”

The Supreme Court says:
“In throwing out the order, the U.S. Supreme Court said the Ohio Republican Party, which filed the suit, would not prevail on the underlying question of whether the lower court was allowed to act on a lawsuit brought by a private entity.“

You also say:
“Now the Department Of Justice is now involved,“  well not really:
Dayton Daily news reports:
“On Tuesday, Boehner, R-West Chester, and eight other Ohio House Republicans asked Mukasey to look into the matter. Boehner sent another letter to Bush on Friday, Oct. 24, after not receiving a speedy response from Mukasey.“

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/10/25/ddn102508bush.html

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Dan East
Posted: 26 October 2008 08:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Um, everything I said was 100% accurate.  Republicans tried to sue the State of Ohio to make sure the registrations were accurate, and they were not successful.  How are you contradicting that?

Second, somehow you managed to not read the very first sentence in the article you referenced:

President Bush has asked the Justice Department to help determine whether about 200,000 new Ohio voters must use provisional ballots on Election Day.

Bush did so by referring to Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey a letter from House Minority Leader John Boehner. In the letter, Boehner outlined concerns that information on the voters’ registration forms doesn’t match other government records.

Jamie Hais, a spokesperson for the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division, said the department is reviewing the matter.

So yes, the Justice Department is involved, and you had better apologize to me for calling me a liar, or put your money where your mouth is.

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Posted: 29 October 2008 09:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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the republicans are (as usual) trying to keep potential democrats from voting.  those 200,000 voter registration forms that you talk about also include addresses that don’t match what’s on driver’s licenses or other minor discrepancies.  hey guess what?  my driver’s license address doesn’t match what’s on my voter registration so does that mean i shouldn’t vote?  most of these errors are likely caused by transposing errors, missing middle initials and other clerical errors.  and in most of the cases where the addresses don’t match it’s due to people moving like students who register to vote in the area where they attend school but don’t change their driver’s license address.

yes, people do commit voter fraud but those numbers are very small.  saying that the democrats are trying to commit widespread voter fraud is yet another pathetic effort by republicans to win another election in any way possible.

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Dan East
Posted: 29 October 2008 09:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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You seem to be inferring that democrats have trouble keeping their addresses up-to-date compared to republicans.  Isn’t it better to have an election with less potential valid votes, than one that definitely contains fraudulent votes?  I think so.

You have to be 18 to vote.  You have to be a citizen of the USA to vote.  You have to be able to properly verify your identity during the registration process.  If someone is not willing to expend the trivial amount of effort it requires to properly register and make sure their address is up-to-date, then I’m not going to lose sleep over their inability to vote - regardless of who they are voting for.

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Posted: 30 October 2008 01:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Ohio: Flagged Voters Remain Nameless

By IAN URBINA
Published: October 29, 2008
The Department of Justice will not require Ohio to disclose the names of voters whose registration applications did not match government databases, two people familiar with discussions between state and federal lawyers said. The decision comes about a week after a request from President Bush asking the department to investigate the matter.

Federal law requires states to verify voter registration applications with a government database like those used for driver’s licenses. Names that do not match are flagged for further verification. But the law provides little guidance on how flagged registrations should be handled. Ohio Republicans had sought the lists to challenge voters, but the Ohio secretary of state, Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, refused, saying numerical errors or misspellings are the probable reason for most of the discrepancies. Forcing these voters to cast provisional ballots could disenfranchise thousands of eligible voters, she said. Republicans then took their request to court, but were unsuccessful. This week lawyers for the Justice Department determined that they would not pursue litigation before the election.

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Posted: 30 October 2008 02:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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How does anybody know the 200,000 people are going to vote for Obama?

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Posted: 30 October 2008 03:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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toraybon - 30 October 2008 02:37 PM

How does anybody know the 200,000 people are going to vote for Obama?

Good question.  Of course we all know that Democrats would be the only ones doing anything wrong!  Republicans are the most ethical honest and sincere people.  Just look at the Democratic politicians-they are the only ones ever convicted…..no wait, I forgot Duke Cunningham, Ted Stevens, Bob Ney.

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Posted: 30 October 2008 04:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Always Learning - 30 October 2008 03:45 PM
toraybon - 30 October 2008 02:37 PM

How does anybody know the 200,000 people are going to vote for Obama?

Good question.  Of course we all know that Democrats would be the only ones doing anything wrong!  Republicans are the most ethical honest and sincere people.  Just look at the Democratic politicians-they are the only ones ever convicted…..no wait, I forgot Duke Cunningham, Ted Stevens, Bob Ney.

It’s amazing that because the Republicans are losing in the polls they automatically think that any voter fraud is beneficial to the Dems. Who knows those 200,000 votes may be the votes McCain needs to win. Reps you better start pushing to get those questionable registrations through.

3 weeks ago I was going to vote for McCain, no way will I vote for him now, after all of the Obama bashing he has done. He should have stuck to pushing his platform. You hear more from McCain & Palin about what Obama & Biden are going to do, than you hear from Obama & Biden themselves.

McCain, Palin, and the RNC are the best campaigners the Dems have.

GO McCAIN/PALIN!!!!!

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Dan East
Posted: 30 October 2008 05:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Of course double-checking the votes could hurt either side.  At least the Republicans are willing to do what is right, and what is in accordance with the law.  People presume the Democrats will be hurt more, because there are a lot of people voting the first time for that party, and it is assumed they are more likely to make mistakes with their registration.

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