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Why the Democrats Own This Financial Crisis
Posted: 15 October 2008 05:40 PM   [ Ignore ]
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The following is a condensation of a series from the Investor’s Business Daily explaining “What Caused the Loan Crisis”:
1977:  Pres. Jimmy Carter signs the Community Reinvestment Act into Law.  The law pressured financial institutions to extend home loans to those who would otherwise not qualify.  The Premise:  Home ownership would improve poor and crime-ridden communities and neighborhoods in terms of crime, investment, jobs, etc. 
Results:  Statistics bear out that it did not help.
How did the government get so deeply involved in the housing market? Answer:  Bill Clinton wanted it that way.
1992:  Republican representative Jim Leach (IO) warned of the danger that Fannie and Freddie were changing from being agencies of the public at large to money machines for the principals and the stockholding few.
1993:  Clinton extensively rewrote Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s rules turning the quasi-private mortgage-funding firms into semi-nationalized monopoies dispensing cash and loans to large Democratic voting blocks and handing favors, jobs and contributions to political allies.  This potent mix led inevitably to corruption and now the collapse of Freddie and Fannie.
1994:  Despite warnings, Clinton unveiled his National Home-Ownership Strategy which broadened the CRA in ways congress never intended.
1995:  Congress, about to change from a Democrat majority to Republican, Clinton orders Robert Rubin’s Treasury Dept to rewrite the rules.  Robt. Rubin’s Treasury reworked rules, forcing banks to satisfy quotas for sub-prime and minority loans to get a satisfactory CRA rating.  The rating was key to expansion or mergers for banks.  Loans began to be made on the basis of race and little else.
1997 - 1999:  Clinton, bypassing Republicans, enlisted Andrew Cuomo, then Secretary of Housing and Urban Developement, allowing Freddie and Fannie to get into the sub-prime market in a BIG way.  Led by Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Chris Dodd, congress doubled down on the risk by easing capital limits and allowing them to hold just 2.5% of capital to back their investments vs. 10% for banks.  Since they could borrow at lower rates than banks their enterprises boomed. 
With incentives in place, banks poured billions in loans into poor communities, often “no doc”, “no income”, requiring no money down and no verification of income.  Worse still was the cronyism:  Fannie and Freddie became home to out-of work-politicians, mostly Clinton Democrats.  384 politicians got big campaign donations from Fannie and Freddie.  Over $200 million had been spent on lobbying and political activities.  During the 1990’s Fannie and Freddie enjoyed a subsidy of as musch as $182 Billion, most of it going to principals and shareholders, not poor borrowers as claimed.
Did it work?  Minorities made up 49% of the 12.5 million new homeowners but many of those loans have gone bad and the minority homeownership rates are shrinking fast.
1999: New Treasury Secretary, Lawrence Summers, became alarmed at Fannie and Freddie’s excesses.  Congress held hearings the ensuing year but nothing was done because Fannie and Freddie had donated millions to key congressmen and radical groups, ensuring no meaningful changes would take place.  “We manage our political risk with the same intensity that we manage our credit and interest rate risks,“ Fannie CEO Franklin Raines, a former Clinton official and current Barack Obama advisor, bragged to investors in 1999.
2000:  Secretary Summers sent Undersecretary Gary Gensler to Congress seeking an end to the “special status”.  Democrats raised a ruckus as did Fannie and Freddie, headed by politically connected CEO’s who knew how to reward and punish.  “We think that the statements evidence a contempt for the nation’s housing and mortgage markets” Freddie spokesperson Sharon McHale said.  It was the last chance during the Clinton era for reform.
2001:  Republicans try repeatedly to bring fiscal sanity to Fannie and Freddie but Democrats blocked any attempt at reform; especially Rep. Barney Frank and Sen.Chris Dodd who now run key banking committees and were huge beneficiaries of campaign contributions from the mortgage giants.
2003:  Bush proposes what the NY Times called “the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago”.  Even after discovering a scheme by Fannie and Freddie to overstate earnings by $10.6 billion to boost their bonuses, the Democrats killed reform.
2005:  Then Fed chairman Alan Greenspan warns Congress:  “We are placing the total financial system at substantial risk”.  Sen. McCain, with two others, sponsored a Fannie/Freddie reform bill and said, “If congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system and the economy as a whole”.  Sen. Harry Reid accused the GOP ;of trying to “cripple the ability of Fannie and Freddie to carry out their mission of expanding homeownership”  The bill went nowhere.
2007:  By now Fannie and Freddie own or guarantee over HALF of the $12 trillion US mortgage market.  The mortgage giants, whose executive suites were top-heavy with former Democratic officials, had been working with Wall St. to repackage the bad loans and sell them to investors.  As the housing market fell in ‘07, subprime mortgage portfolios suffered major losses.  The crisis was on,  though it was 15 years in the making.
2008:  McCain has repeatedly called for reforming the behemoths, Bush urged reform 17 times.  Still the media have repeated Democrats’ talking points about this being a “Republican” disaster.  A few Republicans are complicit but the Fannie and Freddie debacle were created by Democrats, regulated by Democrats, largely run by Democrats, protected by Democrats and now being investigated by the same Democrats.

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Posted: 17 October 2008 11:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Excellent post.  I have a subscription to Investor’s Business Daily and find the information to be sound.

Michael Ramirez is an added bonus.

Fannie and Freddie were the Democrats “baby” and it is time someone showed their true involvement.

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Posted: 17 October 2008 01:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Here is how Investors Business Daily is described.  With that view I would expect them to wrongly blame the Democrats not lack of oversite since they believe in NO oversite.
“Investors Business Daily also carries editorials and columns on topics from “economics and government to politics and culture”[2]. The page takes a free-market view of economic issues and an often conservative view of American foreign policy.“

You are speaking of Michael Ramirez the cartoonist, right??  I like cartoons but don’t rely on them to investigate who to blame.

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Posted: 17 October 2008 09:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Quite a few investors rely on this publication.  You must not be an investor.  Michael Ramirez is a 2 time Pulitzer Prize winning cartoonist. 

Once again; records are hard to dispute.

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Posted: 18 October 2008 08:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Less than 1% of investors read Investor’s Business Daily so from that you deduct that I am not an investor!!
If thats your thought process I hope you have lots of investment help.  I don’t read IBD but have been investing for 35 years.
Who would you point out as great investors??  I think Warren Buffet, whats his take on tax??  I believe that his basic comment was that he could not understand why his tax rate was less that his secretary.

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Posted: 18 October 2008 01:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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fromtheslide - 18 October 2008 08:58 AM

Less than 1% of investors read Investor’s Business Daily so from that you deduct that I am not an investor!!
If thats your thought process I hope you have lots of investment help.  I don’t read IBD but have been investing for 35 years.
Who would you point out as great investors??  I think Warren Buffet, whats his take on tax??  I believe that his basic comment was that he could not understand why his tax rate was less that his secretary.


Buffett’s wealth is really taxed twice—once through corporate taxes and then through capital gains taxes. So really, Buffett is contributing more than 17%.

The only way his secretary would have a 30% tax rate is if she had a husband whose income put them in the 33% bracket, which would mean that their combined income would have to be more than $150K.

While I have no doubt you are “invested” in the market through a 401k, a true investor knows the rates of capital gains taxes and the wages tax.

Condemning a business magazine does not dispute that fact.

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Posted: 18 October 2008 01:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I don’t think I condemmed a business magazine, all I said was that it is read by <1% of investors.
I really don’t care how much taxes Warren Buffet or his secretary pays, I was simply pointing his statement and views on tax.

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Posted: 18 October 2008 01:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I think the rate is higher, but do not have time to look up such trivial claims.

Let’s stick to the topic at hand, shall we?

What really caused the Financial Crises….first post.

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Posted: 18 October 2008 03:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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You don’t seem to have time to look up a lot of things.

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Posted: 18 October 2008 05:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I am trying to focus on the topic of the thread.  Hijackers do not.  What is the name of the thread?

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Posted: 18 October 2008 05:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Does anyone truly believe this financial crisis was caused solely by Fannie and Freddie?

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Posted: 19 October 2008 12:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Freddie Mac (FRE) secretly paid a Republican consulting firm $2 million to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed the mortgage finance giant and its sister company, Fannie Mae (FNM), three years before the government took control to prevent their collapse.

In the cross hairs of the campaign carried out by DCI of Washington were Republican senators and a regulatory overhaul bill sponsored by Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. DCI’s chief executive is Doug Goodyear, whom John McCain’s campaign later hired to manage the GOP convention in September

In the midst of DCI’s yearlong effort, Hagel and 25 other Republican senators pleaded unsuccessfully with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., to allow a vote.

“If effective regulatory reform legislation ... is not enacted this year, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system and the economy as a whole,“ the senators wrote in a letter that proved prescient.

Unknown to the senators, DCI was undermining support for the bill in a campaign targeting 17 Republican senators in 13 states, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press. The states and the senators targeted changed over time, but always stayed on the Republican side.

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Posted: 19 October 2008 02:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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I am focused on the topic of the thread.  Please answer me.  I need to make a decision before election day.

Was this financial crisis caused solely by Fannie and Freddie?

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Posted: 19 October 2008 03:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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I got a new home and lost it so fast cant put blame on anyone but myself just bad luck and timeing
I was a little ahead of all this but the snow ball got me and my fambly

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Posted: 19 October 2008 04:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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“Was this financial crisis caused solely by Fannie and Freddie?“  NO, there are many reasons for the crisis.
CNN is investigating people who caused the problem, they plan to name 10 people, I think they have named six but I can only find the five I show here.
AIG CEO Cassano who is now under investigation by congress & FBI
Lehman CEO Fuld
SEC chairman Cox
Phil Gramm Senior financial advisor to John McCain, remember him, said american public were whiners.
Ex Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan
I will keep this updated as names come out.

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Posted: 27 October 2008 07:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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The Associated Press article on the front page of the Bristol paper today and Greenspan’s congressional testimony both say that the post that started this thread is dead wrong.  When are you people going to quit grabbing at straws?  Free market strategies do not work.  Free markets do not exist.  The idea of free markets sounds good, especially here in America.  Everyone should be free to operate their business as they see fit.  Sounds great but it does not work.  Guess what, Greed trumps all.  As soon as the free market advocates get the upper hand they start manipulating supply to artificially inflate profits.  Bye bye free market.
The free market advocates caused this financial crisis.

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