After the recent brawl and subsequent arrest at turn one, my question is how much longer is this “trouble spot “ going to be allowed to operate as a legitimate business.  The constant fighting and controversy that has become the norm out there is dispicable.  I used to frequent the place but dont even feel comfortable going there anymore.  And thats not to mention the three people I know off the top of my head that have been killed leaving there intoxicated.

First off anyone can leave from anywhere and get into a car accident, drinking or not. Second they made the choice to drive. Turn one as well as other places in Wytheville that serve alcohol offers to call a cab to anyone who has been drinking. The person makes the consience decision to drive or not.  As far as the fight on Wednesday night, the parties came in there with the intent to start a fight. They have prior criminal records and are repeated offenders of various crimes in Wythe County. Turn One had nothing to do with the fight and did everything in thier power to stop the fight. 3 bouncers were there controlling the fight inside, and when it moved outside it was no longer on Turn One property there for they did what they were supposed to do and called 911 where the situation was then handled by local law inforcement. Turn One has now abolished Wednesday DJ night because of the problems this week and in the past on Wednesdays, so I would like to thank everyone involved in the fight on behalf of everyone that goes to Turn One on Wednesdays to have a good time for ruining it for all of us.  As with any establishment that serves alcohol you are going to have your occasional bar fight.  On any other night there are usually no problems.

Man a fight.  Wow this forum is heating up now.  I haven’t lived in Wytheville for a while.  But when I do visit I like a place to go and have a beer. Well the selection is limited back there I know.  I wonder why some new clubs or bars haven’t opened up?

Now about these folks who like to drink and drive.  How many times do you see it on TV, hear it on the radio or see it on a sign.  Don’t drink and drive!  It is beat into the heads of the young and old, but they still do it.  So I say hammer them!  A relative or two of mine have been caught for DUI. Love to hear them bitch about the fine and court cost.  Although it could be worse.  In a few countries you get executed for DUI!!

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Being a 11 yr customer I’ve seen very few altercations in Turn One.  They don’t amount to much and are broken up quickly.  What happened Wed night was a brawl by a few who decided to come and bring their drug related problems to a public place. This is NOT indicative of Turn One and should not be how people judge Turn One.
The Wed night event has been canceled so there won’t be any reason for these folks to return.  Those involved are barred from ever returning. Local police will have to do something about the gang and drug problems in Wytheville.

Regardless of what incidents may have occurred on Wednesday night you can not hold Turn One responsible for this.. I mean seriously how can you even ask the question how much longer is this “trouble spot “ going to be allowed to operate as a legitimate business. Thats right I called you out gw843b. Thats the same thing as saying Gee Golly there’s alot of fights at the High School I guess were gonna have to close it down and put our kids to work in the mines. Yeah gw843b your a jerk and I hope I have made that clear to you. Anyways, trouble spot..... then how was there over 200 people in and out of there on Saturday night and not one fight, not one argument, not one problem what so ever. So for you gw843b and all who agree with him… go find your nearest VFW Hall and play a nice quit game of Bingo and leave Turn One to those of us who enjoy a good time without the brawling. I wish Turn One the very best and I cant wait to come back soon. Love, Peace, and Afro Grease, Much Love Cathy!!!!!!

Peace,
DWF

I also have been a patron of the Turn One bar.  I don’t go there now because it has just become too rough and tumble to enjoy. I have observed drugs being exchanged not only in the bathroom, but in the dining area as well. They cater to people that drink to excess, I have never seen them cut anyone off and laughed at them as they stumble out of the bar. Your right, they have chosen to drive and drink but the bar management has a responsibility to make sure they don’t leave so polluted that they could cause an accident and hurt someone. I saw this happen on more than one occassion. There are laws that hold the bar responsible for excessive serving of alcohol to an already intoxicated person.  I think the paper has mentioned more than one incident involving Alcohol Beverage Control agents investigating the bar or charging people for underage intoxication.  Sad situation, very sad.  IT needs to go.

Speaking as a musician that has played Turn One for the last ten years, personally, this is one of the more enjoyable places I have played. I have only seen one fight in ten years, and it was quickly taken outside. I have played and frequented many establishments in my career, and, on occasion, have seen bad fights, but, what you have to realize, is that it DOES and WILL happen from time to time. It is sad that the fight happened, but from what I know about this altercation, the parties involved are to blame, not Turn One. They did everything that they could to take care of the situation, but sometimes things become uncontrollable. For all you folks that think that Turn One should be shut down, that is your opinion. Mine is what matters to me. If it bothers you that much, simply do not go there. I personally know lots of people in town who love the friendships and comraderie that come from this place. Don’t condemn a whole group of people for the actions of a few. Just my two cents.... ROCK ON, CATHY!!!!

This is utterly ridiculous. What are they supposed to do restrain people who insist on driving? These people are adults and like I and others have already stated they make the decision to drive. I have been going to Turn One since I have been 21 and I have seen the bartenders cut many off, so to say that you have never is a total lie. This town is absolutely a joke. Everyone gossips and spreads rumors regardless of the validity of the subject. If you have nothing better to do than bash and talk trash about everyone else than I feel sorry for you. GET A LIFE! The people who own and work at Turn One are wonderful people who have families and this dumb shit that people are saying on here is affecting the families as well. If anyone is conducting any sort of illegal activity inside the bar they would be immediately escorted off the property and permanently banned. If you are so uptight that you no longer go to Turn One because IT IS A BAR, then obviously the rest of us will have a better time without you there so good riddance.

Re: roadchamps
Apparently you do not go to many bars.  Turn One Rough and Tumble?? Hardly.  Perhaps you’re just a wuss.
Ever go to The Clinic on Main St.?  They had fights almost every Friday and Saturday.  Being a musician as well, I saw them.  There were two people I personally knew that were killed leaving there.  There was a big brawl in front right on Main St. at least three times, with injuries.  The Police came then too.  Where was the articles about those incidents from this fine newspaper?

Roadchamps wrote> There are laws that hold the bar responsible for excessive serving of alcohol to an already intoxicated person.  I think the paper has mentioned more than one incident involving Alcohol Beverage Control agents investigating the bar or charging people for underage intoxication

Well Road, there were articles in the this paper about the ABC investigating action of Turn One.
The main article written was about when Turn One won a lawsuit against them.  Turn One was cleared and deemed to go above and beyond their responsibilities and did everything correctly concerning that situation.
Did you read that one?  Oh, you missed that one, huh?  Maybe you should just keep your
comments and opinions to yourself concerning Turn One, as it is clear you do not know jacksheeeeuuut about anything.

Your attack upon my comments speaks volumes and I am glad you did so because it shows the type of mentality that frequent places like Turn One. If it doesn’t go your way, get into a fight.  I again say I have never seen the bartenders cut off anyone and they laugh at people going out stumbling all over the place. The only thing they are interested in is “green”.  ARe you going to deny that drug deals happen in the establishment?  These so-called “bouncers” see everything, don’t they.  Your the one that needs to GET A LIFE and maybe OPEN YOUR EYES.  Also, lets not forget the three people who were so intoxicated after leaving Turn ONe and being involved in fatal car accidents. I am not saying that the management is totally at fault but they do bear some responsibility. You cannot continue to serve booze to a drunk just because you want your profits to go up. They need to be told NO......I used to enjoy going there because of the sports atmosphere and meeting friends to talk about games, races, etc.  Now there is just way too much drama. I know there have been fights where people have gotten hurt and no law has been called.  This just breeds problems later down the line.

One other thing, I assumed that everyone was entitled to their opinion and regardless of the fact if it was positive or negative, we, as a public would be allowed to express those opinions without being attacked or ridiculed. There is certainly no reason to use the language that you have resorted to. This is suppose to be a family newspaper. You have certainly helped your case with the type of response you chose to use.

oh..one more Road…

Roadchamps wrote> I have observed drugs being exchanged not only in the bathroom, but in the dining area as well.

..and you didn’t report it to the Bartender or Security Staff?  Well my friend, wouldn’t that make you an accessory to the fact.  Did the person receiving the drugs overdose or kill someone on the road driving?  Did that person go home and beat up their family members afterwards?  You don’t know do you?  You didn’t care.  You didn’t take .and you didn’t report it to the Bartender or Security Staff?  Well my friend, wouldn’t that make you an accessory to the fact.  Did the person receiving the drugs overdose or kill someone on the road driving?  Did that person go home and beat up their family members afterwards?  You don’t know do you?  You didn’t care.  You didn’t take responsibility as a citizen and do anything.  You just come on here, holier than thou and put down other people when actually you are one at fault.  We can do without your type thank you. as a citizen and do anything.  You just come on here, holier than thou and put down other people when actually you are one at fault.  We can do without your type thank you.

Next?

You’re right Road, you are rightfully intitled to you opinions and comments.  I, on the other hand, am rightly intitled to disagree with them.  If you feel you have been attacked from me rebuffing and stating facts then you need to stay away from fourms.  Hey, are you Barack Obama?

RE:  BP232

For your information, I do care and on the occassion I saw drugs exchanged in the bathroom, it was so obvious that I called the PD and gave them a description of the person and vehicle they left in and it was stopped in the parking lot and the driver charged and convicted of possession of narcotics.  PSYC. Guess I was doing a good deed and did my part. So you don’t know as much as you think.  I guess you would condone that type of activity as long as it didn’t affect you.....your the one we don’t need. C’mon, the security staff there is a joke. I certainly don’t think I am “holier than thou” but turn one is not the wholesome place that you’re trying to make it out to be either.

Here I am, getting sucked into a verbal fight with someone whom I don’t know and really don’t care about. I guess I can truly see why the things that happen at Turn One do happen. All I was doing was expressing my observations and thoughts and get attacked for it. GOD BLESS AMERICA, home of the first amendment right to express yourself, I guess not.

You can disagree, and you certainly have the right to do so, as I disagree with you and your comments. I just don’t believe in personal attack on individuals. BTW, I’m not going anywhere, thanks.

Roadchamps wroté> I guess you would condone that type of activity as long as it didn’t affect you.....your the one we don’t need.
Are you attacking me with that assumption?

Of course I did not know you reported the drug exchange you say you witnessed.  You didn’t mention it in your post earlier. Good for you.  Now go to the High School and all the truckstops in the area. 

I don’t know why you are going on about your 1st Amendment rights being infringed on here.  Your posts are up aren’t they?  What about our rights to respond to them?  You are holier than thou if you think the 1st Amendment only applies to you.  You are just sore I called you out.  Seems your “mentality” is the same as mine. 

Oh, and by the way… I don’t think the 1st Amendment is an issue here on this forum.  The forum owner can delete all or part of this thread at anytime.

IF your allowed to make assumptions, I guess I can too. I don’t go to high school nor do I have kids that go to school and I don’t drive a truck (thank God) so I don’t need to go to a truck stop, maybe you can be a good citizen and could do that for us since you seem to be concerned about those areas.

I did not bring up my actions in reporting the drug deal because I did not think it was part of the conversation about the issue of the problems at Turn One. I know there are problems with the Clinic and glad it is shut down now as well, hope it never reopens. IT was nothing but “Fight Night” on Fridays and Saturdays.

Prehaps I am making too much of the 1st amendment rights, your right, none of my posts have been altered or erased. I just assumed that I would be able to make my comments without getting into a argument with someone because of my opinion. You are entitled to your opinion and I think it is only natural that when you are “attacked” because of your opinion, you respond.  And that was what I was doing and it played into your responses. I certainly don’t think the language you used was necessary, but I guess that is how you respond to things. I agree, because of being attacked, my mentality was lowered to the same level as yours and with this post, I am taking the high road and refusing to respond to any more of your replies. Good luck with that.