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Prosecutor wants to try juvenile as an adult


Wytheville Enterprise: News > Smyth County News: News >
Mon Nov 05, 2007 - 10:24 AM

By DAN KEGLEY/Staff

The 14-year-old boy held in the shooting of a Groseclose truck stop clerk last week may be charged as an adult, and Southwest Virginia Mental Health Institute is reviewing its procedures in the tragedy’s wake.
The juvenile was initially charged with attempted capital murder, armed robbery and use of a firearm in commission of a felony, said a Smyth County Sheriff’s Office statement released Friday, Oct. 26, the day after the shooting.
According to Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Herb Clay, under Virginia law, a juvenile under age 16 cannot be charged with attempted capital murder. The charge, Clay said, is amended to aggravated malicious wounding, a Class II felony that carries a penalty of 20 years to life imprisonment and a fine of not more than $100,000.
A preliminary hearing is set for Nov. 14, Clay said. The purpose of the hearing is to determine probable cause, the likelihood that the accused committed the crime. If probable cause is found, the case will be certified to the grand jury, Clay said.
Clay said the preliminary trial could be delayed if the juvenile’s attorney, John Graham, orders a psychiatric evaluation for his client.
Graham said Friday his client would undergo a psychiatric evaluation, and he expects the hearing to be continued. Graham could not speculate on the juvenile’s competence to stand trial, saying he’s talked with him only by telephone but will hold an extensive interview next week.
The Commonwealth’s Attorney’s office has filed a motion requesting that the juvenile be tried as an adult.
Murtaza Waleed suffered a gunshot to the face during the incident a few minutes before midnight Thursday, Oct. 25. Waleed remains hospitalized at Bristol Regional Medical Center. He was initially taken to Smyth County Community Hospital and transferred to BRMC.
Derek Evan Fisher, 35, of 1504 Davis Valley Rd., Rural Retreat, was charged with attempted capital murder, armed robbery, and furnishing a juvenile with a firearm. From a previous incident Thursday, Fisher was also charged with breaking and entering a dwelling house, theft of a firearm, possession of a firearm after felony conviction, and petit larceny, the sheriff’s office said.
The boy’s connection with Fisher could not be determined.
The Commonwealth’s Attorney’s office would not confirm, because of the boy’s age, information from a Groseclose resident alleging the boy has a prior criminal record.
Peter Gilley, that resident, said Thursday that others in the neighborhood believe the juvenile had previously broken into a store, a camper, and a residence. None of those property owners, Gilley said, can prove the juvenile was involved.
But Gilley said he had a firsthand encounter in which the juvenile threatened him when Gilley confronted the boy and a younger accomplice as they allegedly vandalized a house near Gilley’s.
“The younger boy begged me, ‘Don’t call the law, don’t call the law,” Gilley said.
When Gilley would not be deterred from reporting the incident, Gilley said, the older boy said, “‘You’re an asshole. It’s none of your business what I’m doing at this house. Do you want to get shot?’”
“Are you going to do it?” Gilley said he asked the boy.
“Yes,” the boy answered, according to Gilley.
Gilley said he reported the threat, but the boy’s probation officer told him a warrant could not be served because of the way the juvenile phrased the threat.
Clay could not confirm any criminal record the boy had because juvenile records are sealed, he said. Clay did not recognize the name of the probation officer Gilley said he spoke with.
“He went from petty stuff to look what happened [at the truck stop],” Gilley said.
The juvenile’s relatives are saying similar things. The boy, whom the News & Messenger is not now identifying because of his age, is a victim of an overburdened and under-funded statewide mental health system, family members said.
The boy had been in a mental hospital the day before. But a treatment team evaluated the troubled boy and released him from Southwestern Virginia Mental Health Institute after finding him “ready for discharge,” according to hospital records shared by a family member with the Bristol Herald Courier.
Three of the boy’s family members do not dispute his wrongdoing, but insisted Monday their pleas for help have gone unheeded.
“By no means are we taking up for the crime that he has done,” the boy’s aunt told a Herald Courier reporter. “There are so many teens that struggle with this and the courts need to take it into account.”
A written statement released by the family and previously published in other media said: “Despite his mother’s requests and pleas to the court to give him the psychological help that he needs, he has only received probation, fines or short-term mental health treatments for three weeks or less. ... We feel that unless he gets the help he needs, and learns how to cope, he will without a doubt, become more bitter and dangerous by the time he is released back into society.”
According to his hospital discharge papers, the boy was released from Southwestern Virginia Mental Health Institute in Marion on Oct. 24 after nine days. The reason for his hospitalization is not included in his discharge papers.
“We discharged him to the courts for a hearing for a previous charge,” Dr. Cynthia McClaskey, director of SWVMHI, said Thursday. “We developed a comprehensive plan for him to receive continued treatment.”
McClaskey said that outpatient treatment would have been administered by Mount Rogers Community Services.
“It is a very tragic situation,” McClaskey said. “We are reviewing our own processes in response to the situation.” The director said it is too early to predict whether any recommendations could come out of that review.
“His mom has taken him to school counselors, she has talked to the principal at his schools, she has taken him to psychiatrists,” the aunt said. “The only place that has really helped him has been the institute.”
Upon his release, the boy was given one-week doses of Seroquel and Effexor and directed to take 100 mg and 75 mg daily, respectively, according to the juvenile’s discharge papers. He also was given prescriptions for both drugs, which carry warnings about increased suicide thoughts in some children.
“Denies S/H [self-harm] ideations,” the discharge papers state.
Seroquel is prescribed to treat bipolar disorder and schizophrenia, according to the drug’s Web site, Seroquel.com. Effexor is prescribed to treat major depressive disorder, generalized anxiety, social anxiety and panic disorder, according to the manufacturer’s Web site, Effexor.com.
The boy was scheduled for an at-home therapy appointment at 3 p.m. Thursday, Oct. 25, but his assigned therapist refused to comment or to say whether the session took place.
Eight hours after the scheduled appointment, family members say the 14-year-old shot the store clerk.
“The child, one minute can be nice, and the next minute he snaps at you,” said his aunt, whom the newspaper is not naming to protect her nephew’s identity.
The problem, she said, is the state won’t treat him long term and the family cannot afford private care.
“The problem here is not the mental institution, it’s the judicial system,” the aunt said.
The family is praying that the judicial system factors in his mental illness when determining his punishment and gets him the help he needs.
“Why did he do this?” the aunt asked. “Why did a 14-year-old boy pull the trigger to shoot a man? We have no answers for that, and God in heaven knows we would have prevented it if we could have.”


Amy Hunter, Media General News Service, contributed.

Reader Reaction:

Is the profanity appropriate here, even if it is verbatim?

Posted by Dan East from Wytheville  on  11/05  at  12:03 PM

Leave this kid’s case in juvenile court, where it belongs.  Prosecutors who are hungry for headlines and a “tough on crime” appearance should not be excused for trying to further damage an already troubled child.  This kid needs the help only a juvenile court can insure.  Place him in prison for, potentially, the rest of his life and you compound the horror of this situation.  Children are not adults and should be given the chance to redeem themselves; to earn their way back into society.  Don’t condemn this kid to a “living death sentence” . . children are not adults.

Posted by John Paul Osborn from Union, NJ  on  11/05  at  04:30 PM

In response to Mr. Osborn’s comments. Yes the boy needs help but lets turn this picture around and say he just shot your son/daughter or wife in the face. He has committed a crime. Do we let the sex offenders off easy to? If teenager rapes another teenager do we say, well they are just soo young and he didn’t know what he was doing. Come on now…The kid made a stupid decision, I sorry, but there are consequences for stupid decision making. I don’t know the case altogether and I’m sure you don’t either but if we started having parents be parents and start spending good quality time with their kids and start have Dad’s step up and start being dads we would not see all the things we see now. A lot of parents are lazy trash that don’t do anything with their kids and don’t even know where they are most of the time. I say, you do the crime you pay the time and shame on the parents for not doing a better job raising their kid. Parents let their kids get out of control and their are no excuse in this world besides laziness on the part of the parent. We need to stop giving excuses. There should not even be a lesser penalty of the law when someone commits a crime of such degree.

Posted by Kevin from Temple, Ga  on  11/06  at  01:34 PM

Sadly,this kid is runied. The system continuely failed him and his family. He has now done irreperable harm. Public schools lack of responsibility, control, and discipline along with a failing state mental health system (Va Tech’s Cho) on display again. Luckily he did not do a “columbine” as too many lost children of the systems have done already. He needs to be incarcerated in a penitentiary mental health treatment facility for the entire term of the time he recieves from the Adult Court system. However, as already seen in the Smyth County Courts (and elsewhere), should he be convicted/plea/Alford, he will get about 28 months to serve with Chilhowie VA’s ex-police Chief DeWayne “child rapist” Sheffield. A good defense atty will blame the gun laws, public schools, and the state mental health system. This 14 yr old “wanna-be killer” will never have to accept responsibility, and neither will Sheffield. At least the boy’s parents, his victim, and the female rape victim can sue the state and county allowing all of us to pay for the failure of the system.

Posted by beachcomber from Tybee/Atkins VA  on  11/12  at  11:43 AM

Everyone keeps saying the system failed him, he had a bad childhood, poor poor boy. This may be true, but it doesn’t make what he did right. Any youngster willing to kill another person for purposes other than self defense develops automatically from a child to a man. He made a mans decision and he should pay for it that way.

Living in Smyth County for 7 years now, I know better than to think for a second that he will get a ruling that is adequate for his behavior. More back room deals are possibly in store even though an employee making $6.00 an hour has to walk around with a scarred face and the fear of knowing this can happen anytime to him, if he continues to live at all.

Wake up Smyth County!! What have we come to?? We plan on rebuilding our courthouse, what about rebuilding our morals upholding our laws to the fullest extent?

Posted by Marion Resident from Marion  on  11/12  at  04:04 PM

Since when is it the public school system’s responisibility to raise your child? How stupid is that! Where is the discipline in the HOME. And yes I know Smyth County Virginia and it is full of corrupt people in top offices all the way down to the good for nothing parents that don’t have an education, that ended up having babies before they had good sense and now they don’t know what to do with them becouse they are out of control.
STOP BLAMING EVERYTHING ELSE! It makes no sense whatsoever. The Boy needed his backside busted Im sure many of times but didn’t get it, now it’s alittle to late and the parents are trying to blame it on the “system”, give me a break.

Posted by Kevin from Temple, Ga  on  11/12  at  04:06 PM

“The boy, whom the News & Messenger is not now identifying because of his age, is a victim of an overburdened and under-funded statewide mental health system, family members said.“

If this childs parents could not afford the costs of raising a child. Example: food, water, Mental Health assistance….. Then they should have bought a box of condoms instead. Shame on them for not doing the right thing and raising him correctly. As a matter of fact, the school system did do everything in their power to assist him. And the parents turned it down.

Posted by Saddened from Marion, VA  on  11/12  at  04:21 PM

I used to reside near Marion, attend Smyth County Schools etc. I can tell you all from experience on the inside that people do not get enough of the help they need before things get bad. Some of it is the fault of the parents, some of it is the fault of the system.

I do agree that if the kid committed an ‘adult’s crime’ that they should serve the proper applicable sentence for it. This individual and the people surrounding them should have noticed early on that something was not right. Why did this kid have access to a firearm? Why wasn’t an adult supervising this obviously troubled individual? And then I have to ask myself what kind of police system/parole officer just lets it slide whenever someone reports an offense and threat saying that it was just how it was phrased!? That’s just stupid. It sounds SO typical of the local police to say something like that…and then what happens? Some innocent person gets shot in the face. Something could have been done about this kid long before they got out of hand. It’s called a spanking and punishment for wrong doing and disobedience beginning at a very young age!

I am sure that Smyth County Schools had a lot to do with the degeneration of this person’s condition.

Posted by Former Resiednt from Used to be in Marion  on  11/15  at  10:46 AM
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