Strange, the paper can print of this one whom showed of crying!! WOW!! She is no baby.... Was this not her boy-friend that shot the police… Is this a way of getting pity from the courts.. Well I am not sure,neither do I know these two or the other one girl involved. But I do know my nephew,Wally Kinder,Yes,My nephew. Wally is not the type to do such awful acts. I have known Wally from a child. Very nice young man. I think Wally fell into the cheap tricks of others,not realizing what was going down,until this awful stuff happened before. Any one that knew Wally,I wish you would put your thoughts here. Find the truth before judgement. I hope Wally is found innocent,because I really deep down believe he is. Too many Rumers were spread before,then afterwards. This young man just got in between bad going on not even knowing,This my thought. My Prayers are with you Wally. The truth will and should be told.
Four arraigned on charges of attempted capital murder
Richlands News Press: News >
Tue Oct 23, 2007 - 04:22 PM
By JIM TALBERT\Staff
TAZEWELL - Only one showed any emotion as four people charged with attempted capital murder of a police officer made their first court appearance Oct. 23.
Roxie Amanda Short, sobbed while filling out paper work to request a court appointed attorney. Short also sobbed something to the judge about her charge in the incident when asked if she had anything to say.
General District Judge Jack S. Hurley, Jr. told her, “it could be amended in the future but that’s the charge for now. Short, 24, of Bishop was one of the four people in a pick up truck stopped in Washington County, early in the morning Oct. 21.
Scottie Lee Stinson, 27, of Bandy, Wallace Kinder, Jr. 34, of Cedar Bluff, Short and Tracy Stinson Coxton, 32, of Tazewell are all charged in a shooting in Bluefield Oct. 19. Deputy Sheriff Eric Mullins was shot while approaching a vehicle they were reportedly riding in. A bullet proof vest stopped one bullet fired at Mullins and the other struck him in the hand.
The vehicle and its occupants were sought in connection with two armed robberies in the early morning hours of Oct. 19. Starting with Stinson, each was brought before Judge Hurley, Oct. 23 for arraignment.
Each was read the charge and given the choice of representing themselves, hiring a lawyer or seeing if they qualified for assistance from the court appointed list. Each qualified and was appointed an attorney.
Penny Nimo of Cedar Bluff will represent Short and Rich Patterson of Tazewell was assigned to Stinson. Kinder will be represented by Richard Forester of Tazewell and Coxton was assigned to Ann Brammer of Tazewell.
Hurley told them there was a presumption for no bond in the shooting of a police officer and ordered each held in the Southwest Regional Jail in Abingdon until trial. He set preliminary hearings for all four for Dec. 14 at 9 a.m.
Stinson was also arraigned on one count of use of a firearm in the commission of a felony and an aggregate felony bad check charge. A preliminary hearing on the firearm charge will be held Dec. 14.
He was also arraigned on eight misdemeanor bad check charges and those were scheduled for trial Dec. 13. Commonwealth’s Attorney Dennis Lee said the bad check charges are unrelated to the shooting.
Lee said additional charged related to the two robberies are pending against all four defendants.
i want all to know the truth about my nephew wallace kinder which we all call wally, he is not the type of person to do these things,i grew up with wally and i have always been there,wally is a very kind loving guy he would do anything for anyone, he would never hurt noone,this press i just wished you knew him you would’nt be saying this stuff just what you hear and assume,god knows i myself think police officers have a rough job and i hope the guy that shot him gets his,they need to be awarded more than they do they have a very dangerous job,and i pray he is ok, wally is not the type to even be with someone to do such a horrible act,he knew nothing those others did or he would’nt even got with them later on ,they just needed a free ride,to get away so my nephew got trapped into something he knew nothing about,wally we all know you are innocent and they will see who really is the bad people,who did the stuff that happened.........
i want to point out for these people to believe that our loved ones is innocent is wrong i am a mother of a troubled young man also and i know i raised my son right and he has very good values but when he made up his mind to join in with his friends he should not walk away we have to learn from our mistakes and the choices we make in life that is what makes us a stong individual with even better values as we grow up. i believe if we let our mistakes go un punshined we are only hurting the ones we love so please do not buy him out of this let him go thru the system and learn from his mistakes that is the very best thing for these horrible crimes that these young people have commited and they need to learn from there mistakes and we pray for there victims.
i know we all raise our kids to the best of our ability, but my nephew had nothing to do with this he was just at the wrong place at the wrong time he picked these people up afterwards he had no clue what they have done if you just knew my nephew you would understand but i don’t exspect you to because you are just reading the news and i undersatand it,my nephew was raised like all of us we all are to good for our own good we was just raised to help others and do as we would want to be treated,no my nephew should of never went and got them and been around them the tracy girl was my nephews girlfriend he loved her she had him in this mess,i will let god take care of it i just know my nephew and he would never do this horrible crime he was just in the middle of it all or trust me i would never be for none of this i just know my nephew,i have a son in the airforce thank god i know were he is and i do understand how kids now days do horrible things why only god knows that because we none raise our kids to be that way,my nephew was set up and it will be shown at the end,i don’t only pray for the victems but all because this world is all messed up why kids do what they do,we will never understand,all have a blessed day.......
THIS is to what pjc from west said,that the world is all messed,its not the worls messed up the world a beautful place, its the people in that messes it up.god bless us all....
if your going to say something at least learn how to type it ,trust me, this world is all messed up,because of the gov ,justice system,and all people that make this world this way,maybe you need to go back to school and learn, instead of putting your nose into someone elses business,have a great day and may god be with you.pjc…
I was in the store when the 1st robbery occured. It was very scary for me and the clerk. I hope these guys get what they deserve in court. It will take that clerk a long time to recover from the stress of having a gun held to her. I hope she is ok.
Things like this should not happen!! But Always has,sad ones can get them selves in such a mess. Reading the last post from TJW,Yes,very scary for any one to be in such a bad situation. I hope you and the clerk will be okay,any one else that was around seeing this. You say you were in the store,was guys on web-site both in on this,or do you remember of another guy that was not on site of pictures? Were the lady’s in store?? Shows the three on web-site in the news,but the picture of girl al-so heard being involved named Tracy,her picture was not shown. Sad part of all of this,Rumors were children were in vehicles at time. I my-self, does not know what really went down,other than hear say,plus readings from papers. WOW!! So sad that any one can waste their life on awful actions,harming our Police,possible could of been others hurt,If had continued. I thank our Police for their time spent,getting these off the road. Very Thankful Our Police,or any one else was not killed. Thanks to all our police force involved,any one else,to stop what was going on. Good that their are people in this world helping to try to stop or help when crime goes on.
In response to this...."Wally is not the type to do such awful acts.I think Wally fell into the cheap tricks of others,not realizing what was going down,until this awful stuff happened before.” We are talking about two ARMED robberies. We are not talking about an impressionable teenager… he is 34.
My husband works for a County Sheriffs dept. This story hits close to home for me. My husband puts his life on the line every day. To defend anyone who is responsible or involved in helping someone who was responsible is just heartbreaking. Let them be held accountable for their actions, no matter if they were a good boy before this happened. Our police defend and protect...and that means all of us. Every 48hours a police officer is killed on the job protecting YOU making sure you can sleep at night! Keep that in mind before everyone defends anyone who shoots or is part of helping anyone who shoots at an officer of the law. I am NOT sorry if this offends anyone. Two armed robberies....many lives have been touched due to the four irresponsible people involved. You do not forget when you are robbed at gunpoint. And if not for the bulletproof vest of the officer, we would not even have the discussion of guilt...it would me murder, cold blooded. My heart goes out to the familys involved, and especially Deputy Sheriff Eric Mullins family. Deputy Mullins was just walking up the truck he had stopped and did not expect to be shot that day.
Wally is part of my step-mother’s family and I love all of them. I have known Wally for 20 years, I have never even heard of him getting tied up with people like this. I am sure it was his big ol’ heart that has gotten him into this mess, He is the kind of guy that no matter the time of night if you needed him to come and help you change a tire even at 3:00 AM he would be there without a complaint one. That is just the kind of friend he is. An for anyone that can realay a message to Mr. Wally Gator, tell him his cousin Robby would love to hang out with him again.
Response to Shannon!!First of all,do you have children?? Lets say, one of these in this situation, could had been your son or daughter.. Regardless!! Yes! The Police are out there to defend. When a police takes on this type of situation,or any other,no-one knows what the out-come is for the police,or any one else that gets involved. Hoping each, makes their job as safe as possible. Thankful, the one police had his vest on. Not an easy job! I do not know what really went on in this foul play,If you could call the matter that.. I do know,some-times another can get involved into a situation as this one or others,finding them-selves involved in every-thing that has happened. Yes!! This has happened alot. No-one can judge,until the real truth comes out,then again,can they even then,when there are people out there, been put behind bars that are not the bad guy at all. Yes!! Whom-Ever in this crime, was the one doing this awful acts, with the robbery,plus shooting of a police officer,does deserve time spent,when that person hand a gun in his pocket,meaning to use. I just hope these young ladies,two with,does not get off any easier than any others,just because tears. No baby either!! Prayers to our police,Families. To be honest about all of what is going on now!! Changes in the Laws. Lets go back to the good ole-days. OH,"Things still happened,but way children are out on their own from young years to raise them-selves to way they are allowed to do what-ever. This does not help either.. So,I will say to the ones that do spend time teaching,time well spent with their children at a young age,Thank-You. But,no-one knows what is going to happen when they grow-up on their own,getting with wrong. Parents just pray, from teachings that they taught at a young age will never fade,but stick with teachings,taught.. We all learn from mistakes,that is so right,BUT!! Hoping by the mistakes no one gets harmed along the way. God be with us all.
How could you say “poor wally” I agree with Shannon from JC, they man is 34 yrs. old & just “picked them up” come on it was all over the news and such police force how could one not know what was happening? I was in Bristol on that day & I knew before 8:oo a.m. As for Tracy she’s been down the long road of criminality before even recently released from incarcerration so… she knows what time it is.... “COUNT TIME” stand by your bink for “COUNT TIME”
To whom-ever!!! 24/34/age has no play in any of this!!!! What about the little guys that carry guns to school,or the drug dealers out every day killing some-one. How about the alcoholic on the street,driving drunk. Some-one kills another,gets off the hook in no time… Come-on people,nothing is fair any more. I see,hear the news all the time. Spit on the ground,get arrested,a man beats the crap out of his wife,no big deal,just a family crisis.. Got to kill on this part,or be killed before this guy gets what ,a few years. There are good,there are bad,in all that goes on out there. Know some-one,OH,"well smack on the hand. Been around,seen quite a-lot. No one wins any more,unless.... Take this to heart. Wally is my Nephew,get that. I am not ashamed to say this. You do not know Wally,so shut up,unless you have the real,I mean real true facts. GOSSIP is what kills...Take a hike.
this is to shannon and lisa, until you both know the truth, you both need to keep your comments to yourself, you know nothing that went on so keep it to yourself we really don’t care to see what you say, yes wally is a 34 year old hey there are friends in this poor world that can stab you in the back and get you caught up in something you have no clue what the hell is going on it will all be brought to justice, and i hope you both eat your words, evedently you both have no kids,or you would’nt be on here bashing someone you don’t even know.yes it was all over the news (duh) people like you make me sick,hey sloopy these people are why out of there crazy heads to even get on here and say anything that they have no clue what day it is lol.watch who you judge because honey it will come back full force on you or someone you love so get off the smart remarks,wally is my nephew and i will defend him till the end,he is innocent to me till proven other wise that’s what family is,maybe you need to go and be with yours instead of being in here putting your nose were it does’nt belong…
For Lisa,from Lebanon,Va. As for Tracy,I know nothing of this person,seems you know quite alot,or else you would not know so much. Do you know Wallace?? If not,how can you speak of ones you know nothing about… As far as your BINK,what ever your meaning,english is best.... Do not judge,for you will be judged one day your-self. The truth is,hard to find Angels on earth.
In response to Sloopy… yes I have a son. If my son, decided to rob someone or help someone who did, I would expect him to pay the time deserved. We all do our best raising our kids the best way we know how. Then they grow up. Period. I know when my son is an adult my hands are finished molding the clay, and I cannot direct or decide how his life will be from that point further. Especailly when he is in his 30’s! Good decisions bad decisions will happen. That is life. My son will hopefully respect others the way I have respected him. I cannot to defend someone who hurts or helps others who hurt officers of the law, or steals from others at gunpoint. My mom worked at a gas station a few years ago, and it got robbed at gunpoint. She quit the job and will never forget the trama of that night. Lives were affected in so many ways. Just look at the people who have responded to just this news story,the families who are involved, the workers at the stores and the officers families. People should be held responsible for their actions, and the guilty should pay. Whoever that is.
I hope they all get jail time. According to the article these are all adults by their age. Regardless if one is related to these people you should not defend these criminals. I work juvenile justice probation in a county in TN but I am originally from Richlands. I cant tell you how parents defend 17 and 18 year old who do serious crimes then they blame the system for the punishment they receive. I also got caught up with the wrong crowd of people but I was smart enough at 18 years old to move away and start a new life and leave all the negativity. I hope these people get at least 15 years in prison for the poor choices they made if evidence is presented in court that they are guilty. Sorry but there is no excuse for anyone to want to murder someone regardless how much you dislike them. I cant believe how closed minded people can be when it comes to family committing crimes.
Okay!! Lets all get real. We can all say one thing or the other in our thoughts,Freedom Of Speech,Right!! To Shannon: Or any one else: I also have a Nephew,Whom is a police officer. These guys never know what to face, or is coming at them from one day to the other.. Good and bad in every day life. I also have sons grown,on their own,with family. I pray every night for God to guide them in right from wrong. That is what we do when our children grow to be adults. Having respect for others,as we, our selves want respect. OH,"I still give my part of advice,I am a mother.. Being a mother,I can feel for any one that has grown,or even small children, that fall along the way for reasons we never really under-stand. Some,or should I say quite a-few,from child hood had no parental guidance.. My heart cries for those also. Yes,when a person does awful acts,we all know the law,or should,that one time or the other we get caught for actions taken. Some care,some does not care. As If Life has no meaning. Respect for the Law should be taught to all,Vise Versa.. Lets say,What If a person does have friends,one was not their at that moment crime happened,not knowing bad was going down.. A call comes,can you pick us up at so or so place… You get caught in an act,not knowing until afterwards,fearing what may happen,guy has gun. Maybe, even though you thought these were your friends,(Maybe Using You,For-What-Ever).. So you stay,afraid of being shot your-self. Not realizing, this one guy,was shooting a police officer,had al-so done robbery. Yes,what-ever,being with ones that do such an act,you are involved one way or the other,from being there. Hopefully the truth should come out,one way or the other. Bless all the Law Inforcement,out doing their job,on the line every moment for duties performed. May God be with us all.
whatever!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hey i heard you people was on the jerry springer show lol,he loves you people,don’t worry yourself about other peoples business it gets you no where,maybe you need to go and feed the chickens or fetch your goats and stay out of others business no one knows what the heck went down,it will all come to justice soon so we will see who’s right or who’s wrong,so find another page to go to maybe,jerry springer.com hey your family member might be on there,or maybe on here who know’s this is all just a bunch of gossip,have a great day peps you all want to judge others when you should be feeding the goats,or seeing if your husband or boyfriend is having an affair,don’t miss the episode of jerry,,,,,ha
I think that is what is wrong with the world today. Everyone is at everyones throats. I am from that area and it is not for younger people. I grew up there with very strong family values, my whole family went to chruch. I had a older sister that went to college and has a wonderful life. I however feel in with the wrong people, and my life was crazy. I used drugs for many years. And well you know with the use of drugs comes felony charges. I thought that my life was over. Thought that I would always be a “thug”. I did 2 years in the prison system, yeah that did me alot of good. Made me way better at what I did. I got out and moved away,still holding on to some of the people I knew down in the area. Found myself doing the same thing once again. Getting high and selling dope. But for some reason felt guilty about it this time. Got myself cleaned up and out of there. Now for the first time in my 30 years of living, I work(everyday), pay bills and have a regular life. And the reason that I am sharing all this with you is for two reasons. The justice system in Southwest Va. has things backwards. They think that giving people time in jail will change them and well it won’t. You have to want to change. Anyone can fall in with the wrong crowd and pick themselves up and walk away with only the scares that remain. But trust me you can over come anything. To the families of all these people, PRAY!! Thats what you need to do. Instead of fussing and fighting with people that you don’t know. You aren’t the one on trial here, you aren’t the ones in jail. You don’t know what its like in there but I do. And you need to pray to God that your family memebers are safe and find peace of mind in there. I am sorry for all that has happend down there, but something needs to be done. You can’t just continue the cycle down there. And I will say a prayer for these people today, that God is with them and that they are safe. Thank you!!
I know where this is going....to an immature place so I will get out before this get uglier than it is. PJC… grow up, saying things like “watch who you judge because honey it will come back full force on you or someone you love” is just in bad taste. How would you feel if my husband who is a police officer gets hurt tonight? Bad taste indeed. Sloopy, I hope everything comes out and justice is served. I will not be posting on this subject any further. I know I was just posting my opinion. That’s what it is.... an opinion. Take it or leave it, read it or not. I will not be reading any further posts on this subject. I read the newspress because I grew up in Richlands and would like to know how my town is. When I see police officers in my hometown getting shot I read about it. Keep safe everyone. You will see posts from me, but on other subjects that interest me, not this one. Because it is my God given right as an American.
To Shannon: God Bless you and your family. God Bless your husband for being in a career to try to help bad from harming others. Freedom Of Rights,you are right. Each Individual has the right to voice an oppinion,regardless. If you see this,before closing out on this subject,Thank you for voicing your say. Take care,stay safe.
To,Don’t you wish,In California. You know,every one in life at one time or the other makes mistakes in life. Like you said,maybe second. Getting our lives together,like you did is great. Bless you. Some are not as lucky!! When we get that feeling of,something is not right,get out,make it right. This is where some has not had that chance,not listening to their hearts. Lots get hurt bad or leave this world prematurely. Don’t ever listen to mind,listen to heart. We all are human! But pray we all have that will power to walk away,when things do not seem right. God Bless You,Keep it up. Be very proud of your self.
thank you so much for coming in here that’s all i ask for no one to judge something they see and hear,because wallace is my nephew i will be behind him all the way,he did pick the wrong people to be around and that’s why it’s looking so bad on him right now, don’t think for a minute i would approve of none of this,but sometimes we just don’t know the people we are around and what there intensions are,that’s why alot of our kids are getting hurt,he was at the wrong place at the wrong time around people he should’nt of been with,if he goes down that way just because of being with the wrong crowd that’s just not fair in my book he did nothing wrong,he had nothing to do with the shooting,he was just a person that just got caught up with these people yes he was old enough to know better but sometimes we don’t listen,and do things that should be right.i do pray he will get a fair case,that’s all, i love him and i pray that it will all come out the truth,god knows i don’t want to see noone hurt i have a nephew that’s a police officer,and i know they all have a dangerous job,i am sorry if i affended anyone on hear just if you could just be in our shoes when it’s a family member that has to see all this negitive thoughts it does hurt,i do believe also if you do wrong you should pay the debt,i just know my nephew,i don’t exspect none of you to know him you just see and read stuff, so please except my apoligy,i won’t be back on here so bless all and pray that we will all make it in life because it’s hard seeing kids on drugs and doing god knows what,this world is not like it was when we were growing up it’s gotton worse drugs have taken over kids lifes just have to pray.i know none of you so i have no right to judge you guess you say what you all feel,i said stuff out of anger and i am grown enough to say that i am sorry..........
hey i was born and raised in richlands va, never know we all probably all know each other it is a small place and hear we are going at each other when we all should be pulling together,i really don’t exspect you all to know my nephew,i know all about roberies and killings gosh i live in indiana,guess if i seen it i would react the same,i am so thankful i did’nt go down the road these kids are going ,and i am thankful my son did’nt go that route,he was around bad kids too but choose not to go that route,but there is so much peer pressure today with all the drugs that is around i have family in richlands and they say the meth clinic there is really bad business,our government needs to get tough and help our kids that are in need to keep them out of trouble put programs out there for them to have something to do in life i lived in richlands there’s nothing there.well hope life treats all good just thought i needed to say that,pjand for all that has been down that road and has gotton help god bless you and be proud you was strong enough to do that.